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Courtney
Bonnie
What answer are you expecting? No one in their right mind and sober memory would nullify a stable rhyme...
Crystal
That's right, there won't be... but there are talks going on... There's also the issue of aging LCDs, DSB, and various discussions... they occasionally pop up...
Angela6489
If that is the case, it is easier to just put in fresh live rock or replace a few stones.
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I can't imagine how one can dismantle a reef and then put it back together exactly as it was. And it can't be done otherwise. Each organism has chosen its spot, and if you move it to another place... well, it's good if it crawls over, but it might also die.
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Restarting after an accident is a different matter.
Mitchell3177
Regarding the rearrangements, it has already been said that the less you disturb it, the better. Especially if the aquarium is filled with sensitive to debris dither fish...
Sara4035
There is a phrase in the link
I’m trying to imagine this process...
How can you wash away dirt but leave the bacteria?
Of course, I feel sorry for the bacteria, but it’s easier to just wash with osmotic water without any hassle. You can also wash it under the tap and then rinse it in osmotic water.
Nicole2404
Well, if you feel sorry for the bacteria, you can simply use what is known as technical water for this purpose, which is the water left over after water changes, usually not poured down the toilet but collected in tanks, barrels, cans, etc. You can rinse the filter in such water; a certain number of bacteria should definitely remain in the container after rinsing.
Michael5242
Okay. Then I will "adjust" my comments about you.
Well, it's like, the guy "took his place" in the frag book, and they took it and sold it... and he didn't CRAWL but MOVED to another place...
Patricia
Well, I don't know. Store the spent material? Then it needs to be aerated, and the temperature and lighting must be maintained. It's easier to have a few liters of salted material in reserve.
Tara2761
Even if you don't aerate, don't maintain the temperature, and don't illuminate... What the hell is this WORK needed for???? Unless, of course, to sell it to someone as "living" water...
Mariah
Actually, they recommend the same in freshwater. The reason is, of course, fabricated (bacteria mainly lead a sedentary lifestyle and you can't just wash them away; anyone who has cleaned the walls of an aquarium after a bacterial bloom knows what I mean). The real reason is that some people manage to wash filter sponges in the washing machine, and even with detergent. As a result, "You advised me to rinse the filter, I rinsed it, and by morning all my fish were dead!!!" So that's why they recommend it...
Chad231
When I think about moving 600 liters of sea water.
Rodney3101
You are far from him. He had a reef aquarium back in the early 70s. You weren't even involved in projects back then. He didn't use tap water; he had a distiller working, and I state this with full responsibility because I know Dmitry personally. As for the nonsensical topic, read the link, smart guy. It clearly states there about the aging of live rocks and the necessity of replacing them with fresh ones. Here we have the fact of reloading. What else is wrong? Oh, the wording isn't right... well, a smart person will understand.
Leonard
What got caught, that's for sure, just not me... When there's nothing to cover up, verbal diarrhea comes into play. A personality behind seven seals. One that no one knows and has never seen any work. It would be a different matter if Azal showed his "competence" with at least one photograph - don't hold your breath. That's not why he comes to the forum; there are other plans at play. It seemed like the shameful phenomena on the forum had come to an end, but no, there are still inadequate individuals. Therefore, a strong request to the admin to respond with all seriousness to such cases that disgrace the forum.
Julia
Dear marine aquarium enthusiasts, stay on topic.
Anthony
Off-topic John Doe, you are wrong. It's not appropriate to be sarcastic and snarky on the forum. To put it mildly, you are behaving unattractively, genatsvale.
Sharon
You better ask if there are many people here who have kept marine aquariums for more than 5 years. I think in 1-3 years, few will restart the system or update the live rock. Reading the marine section, I concluded that only a few who have maintained aquariums for a long time post here; mostly, everyone forgets and neglects the forum, and even fewer are those who really want to help beginners.
Lynn4242
Guys! The question was asked (NOT FOR KIDS). No offense to young sailors. The question is directed at mature individuals who have been sailing for more than 3-4 years, and what they can share from their experience, as it is very interesting and important. This question, this topic, with a reasonable approach, can provide many with at least something to think about, for those who can think abstractly about the future maintenance of their reef. Of course, I apologize if for professionals this is just a trivial matter. Everything has been experienced and consumed for you. But the more you learn about the sea, the more questions arise, right?
David3217
Well, the question may not be for them, but the topic is just right for them, for first-graders.
Susan
They were right... it means we should follow their example...
Gregory
Alek, you expressed it correctly... This is exactly what it's about. However, it's unlikely that we will receive a sensible answer. Newcomers don't really know, and the experienced ones don't want to...
Mark9853
To answer whether live rocks age, a decent laboratory is needed. Take bacteria from fresh live rocks, count their varieties and species ratios. Do the same with old live rocks. Then something can be said.
Sarah5423
Let's start from the basics. First, a few simple questions.
1. If you take fresh live rock from the sea and add it to an existing aquarium once a year at your own risk, will this lead to the renewal of beneficial bacteria and will they spread to the old rocks?
2. How will they spread? If the bacteria are anaerobic, will they die while crawling?
3. Are the same bacteria found in the water as in the live rock? Then, while on a trip to the Black or Red Sea, can you bring back a couple of liters of water to refresh the culture?
Rachel
All.
Logically, it would be correct to state that only those bacteria will survive in the system that have the corresponding conditions (+ in a specific system). And any significant addition will change nothing - new and necessary bacteria will die without the required food. You can "introduce" even the freshest live rocks with improper actions.
I will clarify right away - this does NOT CANCEL the necessity of live rocks when starting up!!!
Christopher4108
That's right. Such is the eternal law of natural selection, which also works in an aquarium. And "any intervention" is a half-measure... Those who keep the sea for 1-3 years do not notice significant changes. It is easier to combat this phenomenon in a 150-300 liter aquarium than in a 1000 liter one. However, something will definitely have to be done; the fact mentioned by A. Telegin exists. I have encountered it myself multiple times.
Adam4310
how it manifests:
- all corals simply get worse, but all parameters are normal
- nitrate/phosphate levels rise, other parameters fluctuate
- your option
Additionally, it is important to consider the experience of events where in many aquariums live rock is far from being the foundation of the reef, but rather an auxiliary decor. Accordingly, they shift the cleaning function to equipment and filtration systems where it is possible to clearly calculate what, how, and where it was removed, almost down to the molecule.
Emma
The matrix is everywhere. After I saw the magnificent acroporas on pieces of iron pipes and plastic floats for ropes.
So we have already determined that S.R.K. (dry reef rocks) is the matrix, what kind of launch is there? None. After all, a launch implies two more important words - the launch of the nitrogen cycle. There are no questions here. Bacteria can be introduced into the aquarium in any way - from a test tube, from seawater, from a piece of L.K. (live rocks). The nitrogen cycle is important. But for the growth and development of living beings like corals and fish, this is not enough. You can only exist on bread and water. A prison.
Tara2761
Calm down - we are talking about Anatoly - this implies a mature Riff - someone might say - putting a hand on a bucket of salt - my aquarium is 5 years old and I see that it's time for a complete or partial restart because of the prison????
Leonard
Toll - how did you come to that conclusion? If we go by the process of elimination - then taking them out of your volume - nothing should happen - neither bad nor good - just nothing - right?
Alejandro
Why is there no discussion about introducing new live rocks into SAMP? Why is it necessary to specifically dismantle the reef?
Helen
In our business, the main alternative is hydroponics, which has replaced soil cultivation. And with macrophytes (water plants), things are not entirely smooth either. On one hand, they consume nitrates, but on the other hand, they also take everything else, including trace elements. However, a large sump is needed...
Earl
And what if there is no sampe?
Joyce
Off-topic. From this point, I would like to go into more detail... what is wrong with the brains... of housewives?
Kimberly
Off-topic: And some housewives, by the way, are doing great; they figured out what was what in time. And they arranged their riff in such a way that they have no special problems with J.K. (living stones) and won't have any. "According to the purchased tickets."
Gabriel
A housewife is not a status, it is a mindset (in this context).
Debra6575
Aha-aaa! So based on your years of observations, it can be said that ancient J.K. (living stones) start to release into the water what we definitely don't need. Well, then it makes sense.
Robert5335
Well, the Old J.K. (living stones) have a place in other aquariums. They have fulfilled their purpose for the reef. However, I will repeat, due to the issues related to their dismantling, a replacement with new ones is not planned in the foreseeable future. Time and the reef can still endure...
Brent5588
The topic is closed.
Phyllis
I will open the topic with a question: is it necessary to restart a marine aquarium after 7-8 years of life?