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Julie
For normal and inexpensive sea salts, you can use Tetra ine SeaSalt. If you prefer something more expensive and of higher quality, then Tropic in Bio-Aktif or Pro reef would be suitable.
David953
Are there no nuances with the tetra? Just diluted it and that's it? And how long can the solution be stored?
Debra8438
Thank you. Everything is brief and clear. Well, shall we begin with a blessing?
Robert
What are you planning to measure in freshly prepared saltwater? Calcium and Magnesium? The quality of the salt? It's already somewhat known. It's more important to know the parameters in the aquarium with fish and corals...
Erica752
Water is the basis for standards. To build test scales, certain components are added additionally.
William
I tested Ptero with tetravalent salt. Apart from nitrates, I did not notice any deviations from JBL's indicators.
Jacob4800
Before presenting the product to sea enthusiasts, we must double-check everything ourselves and, as you accurately noted, create a separate scale for nitrates. After that, we will start developing the missing but important tests for the sea.
Kimberly
It is advisable to check the quality of osmosis water with a TDS meter - the closer the indicator is to zero, the better the osmosis works. Best regards.
Jill1815
Do you really think that we produce tests and know nothing about osmosis? We have an industrial setup.
Deborah2682
Ideally, reverse osmosis with post-treatment using composite resin (anion exchange + cation exchange) is needed. Osmotic membranes, even high-quality industrial ones, allow silicates to pass through.
Dennis
a............................clear
Melissa1838
Here's another question. What tests are needed first, besides the ones we are already producing? I searched the internet and it seems to me that Magnesium and Calcium are important. Is there anything else that is critically important?
Thomas5021
Copper. Every marine aquarist should have a copper test tucked away in a corner. It may never be needed, but when things start to go wrong and you don't understand why, the vial comes out. And at least one of the reasons is either ruled out or, God forbid, confirmed. As for Mg and Ca, yes, those are necessary!
Bryan1851
Understood. But I take it this is not critical? I'm only interested in the most important ones to start with. Like no test - no sea. Magnesium and calcium, is that correct?
Jessica6754
In order of decreasing importance:
Calcium
Magnesium
Silicon (SiO2)
Copper
Melissa3200
Agreed. Naturally, after phosphates, nitrates, and other nitrites with pH and KH.
Courtney
I listed the tests that Ptero does not have. They have phosphates, ammonium, nitrites, nitrates, iron, pH, and kH.
Debbie3587
Thank you. We'll figure it out.
Robert5335
must-have for any marine aquarist:
1) KH test
2) pH test
3) PO4 test
4) NO3 test
the rest as needed ......................
Caleb6320
By the way, I'm also ready to be a tester - I currently have a wonderful opportunity for this - under the supervision of more than a dozen marine systems of various types, including fish systems, so there will be real results. Last time it was unclear whether the tests were working or not - in all the reefs, nitrates and phosphates were at zero!
Brandy1134
This is already there. Let's just double-check for the sea and make any necessary adjustments.
Justin9867
Thank you all. I think you understand that this won't happen tomorrow. But the movement is starting, and God willing, in a couple of months... we will be testing.
Sara
Well, as they say, HAVE A GOOD JOURNEY! We are waiting for the results!
Travis572
Here it is - there was an attempt to make a homemade Calcium (Ca) test, but after rereading the thread, I realized that nothing really came of it... So... Although a reasonable price is needed for the Ca test. Good luck!
Jacob7201
Hehe! Apparently, NATAC thanked him for making him smile... Because there is a solution to the issue there... But you need to read and understand... The rest is a matter of commerce...
Darrell5975
Well, yes.
Spencer7805
That's right, this is a test for determining divalent metals, just much coarser. The concentration of calcium is subtracted from it. Due to the latter, the determined value varies greatly among different manufacturers. The most important thing in this matter is to achieve sufficient stability and accuracy of the titrant.
Michael826
The basis should be the match of the test result with the standard data defined by the test. For whom and to whom? Manufacturers or consumers?
Thomas
pH, probably...
Antonio
And the price of the pH electronics / drop pH is mainly so that it is not equal to one or two... Then it makes sense to be...
Mario
I am talking about magnesium/calcium tests.
Stacy6866
Now it's clear. But it seems to me that it was obvious even before...
Charles5941
As always, a lot of seemingly smart statements about nothing. Well, never mind. I think I've figured it out.
Randall7906
The advice to "hit the bullseye" when shooting is of course "nothing at all." However, it is better than the advice to "shoot at sparrows" in the shooting range...
Emily3144
I believe my question was quite specific. Given that no one had shown interest in the sea until now, it turned out that there are many methods, not just the ones mentioned in the question. That's why we were interested in your opinion. For example, the method at Red Sea is completely different from JBL, and so on. Well, never mind. No opinion, no problem. And no one is planning to shoot at the sparrows. We will just prepare and release new tests.
Debbie3587
With tests, everything is simple: accuracy, simplicity, minimal reagents, sharp color transitions, price.
Karen81
Without a doubt, calcium and magnesium separately are more convenient.
Heather
I have a JBL calcium test and a Ca/Mg test from the same JBL. The calcium results differed by 60 units! And magnesium showed 1100. I mixed fresh water, and the result was: Mg-1100 Ca-360. I bought a coral and tested the water it arrived in, result: Ca-380 Mg-1100. In AiRife, they recommended the Ca/Mg test from Tropic Marin. The result: my aquarium Ca-424 Mg-1380. Fresh water Ca-424 Mg-1380. The water the coral arrived in Ca-420 Mg-1360. So now this JBL is just sitting on the shelf.
Justin9867
For a definitive diagnosis, it would be good to test the standard titer. Then the conclusion would be like that of a pathologist... The final authority in making the diagnosis...
Jade
This is definitely true. I've seen so much of that among the tests... I only trust the standard.
Lee425
Here are the initial outlines for calcium. Everything is just preliminary. I want to ask which color model suits you better and is more convenient/familiar for reading. These are two different indicators.
Alec9378
1st, as the color transition is clear and evident.
Brooke
Unfortunately, the photos do not convey the colors very well. The second one is a dark purple transition to bright green. This is not the final version yet. We will be adjusting the ratio. But for the base, it doesn't really matter which one we use.
Angela
Here is another option that came up today.
Jacob7201
I forgot a slightly revised version of the very first draft.
Mark
When will the trial batch be?
Nicole
We are just playing around for now. We will start working from the new year.
Breanna9982
HATAK, I haven't seen the topic before - I apologize. I should have called back right away - I could have provided different types of salt from various manufacturers, and I always have water from two different marine aquariums on hand. I can also lend you Tropic Marin tests for calcium and magnesium for comparison.
Joseph8842
Tests are not bad. If needed, I will definitely reach out.
Debra6575
Calcium. Well, it will be something like this. After that, it's a matter of technique, and in general, there are no problems. Everything is thought out, the components are mostly selected. We'll polish it a bit, and after the holidays, we'll prepare for release. It turned out to be a complicated task to find a suitable indicator among the Chinese influx.
Michael
I saw the topic and want to ask, do I have your NO2 tests, are they suitable for seawater?
Susan9583
They fit. I checked and compared them with JBL.
Luis3725
Our website contains descriptions of which tests are suitable.
Sheila1322
After adding solution No. 2 to the test tube, everything separated and the liquid became like glycerin. Could it be that the expiration date has passed?
And what is it that you started sending to the website? I hadn't noticed this about you before.
Nicholas
1. Do you have the old version or the new one? The old one is not suitable.
2. You know that you are not the first and not the only one asking such questions on this forum. Do I need to list every time what is suitable and what is not? There is a manufacturer's website where everything is written. It's not difficult to take a look.
And for others who want to ask a similar question but about some other test, it will be easier. They can just go and read.
Don't look for a black cat... We are watching, listening, understanding, and working.
Tanner
I have an old one.
Todd
Off-topic The methodology has been completely changed in the new ones.
Amber9312
Will there be a transition from pink to blue in your test? If so, that's very good. In TM, there is a transition from light-light blue to transparent. Accordingly, one needs to "train" the eye to distinguish the change in shades.
Melinda
So.
Johnny
Off-topic... in a physical sense, for TM technologists, due to such color transitions. I can't wait for this test to be over.
Kristin
You shouldn't be so harsh on TM. I'm used to it. I test on white paper + source water. Transitioning from pink to blue is like Sera. One drop - 20 mg/L. Test it and you'll find out.
Heather9815
How come you all know so much about us... Even without us, you've made decisions for us. By the way, Salifert and Red Sea also have similar transitions, and it doesn't seem to bother them.
Caroline1599
Off-topic Yes, there is no accuracy like that of TM. But I accept the "transitional color" as a result without adding a control drop.
Ryan7682
There's no need to shout like that. It's already evening, and people are resting. Stick to your opinion. If there's another opinion, speak calmly, and you will be heard.
Patricia1746
I think you heard a bit wrong. No one was planning to shout or get tense. Why? Don't overestimate the situation. Whatever you might have imagined, it won't change anything. The tests will be released, and we hope they will find their buyer. Enjoy your rest.
Monica
No one is hysterically doing anything. Why do you have such a biased opinion? Do you think this way about everyone? For me, it's complete relaxation. As for the drops, who told you or where did you read that the test will be drop-based and not titrated? Why is everything so pessimistic for you? Or is everyone just getting in the way of your relaxation?
Bethany
Do good things, everyone needs them.
Jacqueline5976
Thank you for the blessing.
Matthew
Amen.
Curtis9143
After some delay, a calcium test for marine aquariums has been released. More details here. Applications for testing are here.