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Charles
Amy1672
24 meters of one type of profile? Or in assortment?
Andrea
one, from 100 kg production. Anodizing from 65 m2 of surface. I read about the process - it's not possible to replicate at home. But if it's possible to apply a mask to the inner surfaces, it could save a considerable amount.
Tracey
Oh, that's easier. The picture has become clearer... Are there slots for the glass? Just so you know, I need 1.2 meters...
Vanessa
for, immediately grooves for glass.
Pamela
Is the matrix ready from the manufacturer, or do we need to order it as well?
Melissa1838
Of course, I'm ready; otherwise, the price, deadlines, and form would be completely different. ;-) Someone has already ordered this. There is a similar profile but without grooves for the glass. The main focus right now is on the area of the ribbing; if it works out, I will probably order a trial batch. Many are switching to LEDs, and there are also assemblies for aquarists. I think it will sell; I will find the initial capital.
Christopher7213
I will cut it for you... I had to buy 2x1.5 m. The leftover is decent.
Christopher4125
1.3 m. I will clarify further.
Maria6659
I see.... It's a pity that the price for the matrix is different; while I was looking for a radiator, I found a bunch of interesting profiles, unfortunately unavailable due to shipping costs....
Daniel8015
We misunderstood something. The mold for production is already available. This is not about ordering production from scratch, but simply repeating it using the existing mold. Delivery involves several factories in Kyiv and the surrounding areas, and sending 100 kilos is not that expensive; I bought a double refrigerator in Volyn for 180 with delivery to the house.
I wrote to you in private. Regarding the plastic - which one did you choose? Dual satin or Plexiglas? DNK says that the Plexiglas one is better, the others are weaker. But I won't chase after 98% efficiency; I'm not Rockefeller. P.S. I have half a piece of 5mm polystyrene, 10mm and 8mm plywood, window glass, aluminum profiles... ;-)
Matthew1280
Satin Ice plexiglass is one-sided. There was no double-sided.
Cassandra1840
So, there is the first price. 380-400 per linear meter, anodized in black. They only anodize it completely... :-( Just aluminum is 350. Minimum order is 200 kg, 40 linear meters.
Julie
If possible, I would join. 2 beams of 0.75m, with end caps and diffusing plastic.
Andrea
I think it will work out; I'm currently figuring out through whom to place the order. For now, there's a bottleneck with the full anodizing. Later, I'll have to mill or grind the surface for the diodes.
Spencer7805
It's better not to anodize then.
Theresa5149
Here is a little drawing of this profile that might be useful to someone.
Nicholas2252
I don't like the appearance of bare aluminum. It's not aesthetic. Of course, you can cover it with a fine mesh, but still - "not great." As an option, when assembling, you could grind or mill the base. That's how it was done in the Soviet era. The area per running meter is 0.85 m². According to DNK's calculations, for 8 assemblies of 4.0, you need 0.75 m², and for 3.0 assemblies - a double reserve.
John3335
Is it possible to cover the surface where the SD will be installed with something during anodizing? For example, with a film.
Frank7213
The film won't survive in acid, especially with the heating going on. I suggest they blow silicone grease on the area. They are not agreeing for now; factories usually don't want to deviate from technology. If they were ordering 40 kilometers, they might think about it... In general, I feel that a delta-shaped grinding machine is everything for us. I haven't bought a milling machine for home yet ;-) Unless I put a milling cutter in the drill and clean up the spot for assembly. It's important not to ruin the flatness to ensure sufficient thermal contact.
They said it would take 4 weeks to manufacture.
Anne
The idea is not bad, the price per meter is reasonable, milling is definitely necessary, I would take 1.2 m along with the diffuser, end caps, and even the hangers; I would like to know the final price. By the way, how will the cutting and delivery be carried out?
Elizabeth
There is interest in 0.8 m with a diffuser and plugs.
Angel2396
I would take 1 meter with a diffuser, end caps, and suspensions.
Lee
Wouldn't it be easier to just take it to a paint shop later to have it sprayed with black paint, and either tape the sole or send it for powder coating?
Nancy758
Any paint is less durable and looks worse than anodizing. No one will do the puttying, and it will end up with an orange peel effect after painting. Any paint is a thermal insulator. In general, I asked at the factory if they could do milling afterwards. In the worst case, if it's thin enough, it can be ground down.
Shipping to size via NP. We will cut some things at the factory; whoever connects after receiving will cut at home.
Eric8832
So far, we have collected 11.5 meters. The Brovary plant responded, and I need to talk to the technologist to see if they can do milling after anodizing.
James4757
I see you have approached this issue carefully... so what about the factories? I didn't quite understand, if we don't reach 20 meters, then what? Will the shape of the radiator change? And I'm completely confused about anodizing, will it happen or not, where it will be and where it won't.
Michael3221
I will order the profile. The shape does not change - there is already a ready-made matrix, making it to order is very expensive. Anodizing will be done in black, completely. It turned out that the heat conductivity losses of the anodized layer can be neglected. Anodizing also provides protection against corrosion.
I have drawn the plugs and sent them for cost calculation. There is no information yet on the light diffuser. Regarding the suspensions, I am considering two options - a crossbar, cut by laser, or turned mushrooms with a square cap. The first option is easier to manufacture. Finding a decent machinist for 40-80 bolts is quite a task.
Cassandra1840
I detailed the pendant. It lacks something. The option with the mushroom is in question. It's too troublesome to make. We'll see what the lathe operator says and what the cost will be.
Javier5186
Two managers from the same factory are giving different inputs. One has a minimum of 100 kg, the other 200. If it's 100, we start this week.
Lee
The idea with the cooler is interesting, but the appearance of the lamp will deteriorate. This profile seems to have been designed for passive cooling. If a cooler is to be used, it should be low-profile, like the budget-friendly Deepcool XFAN 70, which has dimensions of 70x70x15, and the mounting holes should match the grooves in the profile.
It's probably better not to get too caught up in colors; black is classic. With such a small order, not many people will want to complicate things.
Good luck to you. You're doing a great job.
Larry9400
We'll take care of the appearance, no problem. I currently see an acrylic platform with coolers that are covered either with a mesh or an acrylic U-shaped lid. It's better to use larger coolers for less noise. We mentioned the plugs, 3mm black acrylic, 10-12 each.
Jeffrey496
How will the plugs look? As for the color, I think we shouldn't overthink it; black is just right.
Tami
Mountings according to the drawing for the 60mm cooler, small ones, but I have similar ones on a 20cm U-profile with a 16-diode spotlight, it reduces the temperature well, and it's powered by 5 volts, so there's no noise. And the black color will look cool, just like on me.
Eric5208
Color doesn't matter to me. If it changes anything, I can do 1m (although 0.8 is preferred).
Paul
The color will be black. If there is a large order, we can try something else. I think it will be 0.8 - many need 1.2. I will be ordering 4m slats, they are easier to cut with minimal waste, although they are more difficult to transport and store.
Maria
I will also subscribe for 0.8m, but are you not planning to make legs for the lamp? So it can be placed on top of the aquarium?
David4089
Can we also make the plugs out of aluminum? I think it will look nicer. Cut them out and then paint with powder coating.
James4342
The legs will be made of transparent acrylic, only 3mm in color is available. Aluminum plugs will be about four times more expensive. Powder coating is quite a hassle.
Meghan
Could you let me know if you have considered a way to fix two profiles together, for example with a step of 150...200? I mean a plate that fits into the grooves of the profile, and at the top of the plate, there are two holes to secure a cable or chain for hanging the light fixture.
Joseph
Something like this
Noah1632
You can make a beam, connect two girders; in my opinion, there’s no point in overloading the suspensions, it’s an unnecessary detail. When the beams hang independently, you can always lift one or two for maintenance, while the rest can remain illuminated. I plan to attach mine like this: a shaped pipe to the base and two cables to each beam.
Wendy8540
What about the controller and drivers? Or will you install a separate controller for each beam? This means that drivers need to be installed in each beam and power cables need to be run. The two beams will definitely be connected by wires. Your light fixture will consist of two beams of 1.6m each, not that heavy, around 17 kg with wires and components. I think it would be better to fix the two beams together to create one solid light fixture, and the wire between the beams would be less noticeable.
John3432
I think I'll run the power along the suspension, with the controller in one beam and only the drivers in the other, using a 7-wire cable from the main aquarium. In any case, everyone can do as they see fit. By the way, I'm going to order the profile tomorrow.
Joshua448
This means that a power cable connects to the bar with the controller. From the controller, there are 6 channels for controlling the drivers plus a power cable, which makes it at least an 8-wire cable. If there are no drivers in the bar with the controller, then it will be necessary to pull the power for the LEDs from the drivers of another bar, which adds at least 7 more wires, assuming the negative from the drivers can be combined. In the end, there will be a lot of wires and suspensions. Consider this issue to simplify the wiring and the entire setup.
James8887
If the price is per square meter, then considering the width of the profile, the price difference will be negligible. The main thing is that it performs its functions and has minimal light loss when passing through this diffuser.
Wendy
No, the price is per linear meter. If it were in square meters, I wouldn't even worry. Just a single diffuser for assembly costs 5 bucks.
Sandra7004
Can I order drivers and diodes in bulk somewhere? Or will many be making fixtures for the sea in assemblies?
Laura3673
Accept me as well
1 profile and 2 plugs, 2 legs. I would also like to see a sketch of the legs to determine the length of the profile.
Corey3201
You better tell your size from glass to glass, outside. I will draw the legs, calculate the strength, while there have been no orders.
Justin9867
It will be necessary to measure about 100 cm.
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Tammy
I will take the thickness of the legs into account for the beam size. +/-1-2mm but with a margin for a secure support. What is the thickness of your glass? By the way, you probably won't need caps, unless you are too lazy to shade the edge of the plastic using the legs.
Debbie3587
8 mm glass. Wouldn't it be easier to make the legs so that they move along the profile? That way, it would be possible to adjust to any length.
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Jeremy
How will they travel according to the profile, what will they cling to? A 3mm diameter hole will not hold the fixture.
Tammy
he probably meant like with AquaLighter
Michael3221
For small fixtures, it is still applicable, but for one-meter ones, it is questionable. Moreover, the profile is more complex here, with more threads and more material.
Natalie
I am confused by the weight of the lamp itself, which is supposed to stand on such bases and not fall into the aquarium, as it is positioned at an angle. As for the manufacturing, it's not a problem, just that more material will be needed.
Earl
The profile meter weighs 5 kg. It depends on the thickness of the legs. You can make it 20 mm - it will definitely hold, but it’s difficult to bend, cutting it requires calculating the profile. There is something to think about. Of course, you can draw it and make a prototype. But how many will it be needed for?
Jason
Let's make them solid so that the leg acts as a plug. It will be less problematic and more durable, but the plastic should be quite thick, as originally suggested.
Anthony
The best option, especially since there are 4 mounting points in the profile.
Diana3118
By the way, did they order a profile for me?
Joyce
now on the list.
Adam4310
Could you let me know if you have already settled on a final version of the suspensions? And when will you be accepting payment for the profile and related components? How is it going with the diffuser? Which one have you decided on?
Hannah
I'm waiting for a quote from the water jet cutters regarding the suspensions; the operators are silent for now. We can cut from 8-10mm acrylic for the short fixtures. However, I'm somewhat concerned about using plastic in such a critical component. The diffuser is probably one-sided, 3mm from Plexiglass - everything else turns out to be almost twice as expensive. Payment will be made when I have the actual product in hand. I'm not trading in air; I've already paid for the profile.
Melissa
The question is: how to attach the "stars"? I understand the thickness of the base is 5mm? Are you suggesting using thermal tape? Or is there another way that won't compromise the appearance?
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Katie4842
There are screws available in lengths of 5 mm and 8 mm, and they come with a coating. There are likely other similar sizes as well. You can carefully drill blind holes in aluminum to a depth of 2-3 mm, and then cut the thread with the screw itself like a self-tapping screw.
Angel2396
I just wouldn't want to make through holes... And carefully drilling 2-3mm with a hand drill is not that easy, in my opinion...
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Kathleen
There is a thing called thermal conductive glue or thermal conductive rubber. It can be used at temperatures up to 180 degrees.
Gregory
Nothing complicated. You put a plastic tube on the drill so that the desired length remains and drill. Although I drilled through, it’s not noticeable between the radiator fins.
Kevin3114
What if we use a bolt for the hangers, the head of which fits into the groove of the profile and is secured on top with a cylindrical clamp with internal threading, and there is a hole for the cable on the other side?
Ryan7682
No one is interfering. The bolt will be M5, and you'll have to look for the head. There are options to make something from fasteners, but something made specifically will look better.
Cassandra1840
What if we cut this hanger from stainless steel, for example, with 8mm?
Loretta5483
, with a saw and a file? If you order production, milling is an expensive pleasure, and stainless steel is not cheap either.
Jeremy3637
The sheet is large and heavy. And where am I supposed to put the scraps from a 2*3 meter sheet?
Breanna9982
The diffuser does not cut anything.
Heather2018
Measure the length of the aquarium between the side glasses to cut accurately for the legs. I haven't drawn the leg structure yet; I have a few ideas, we'll see.
Justin
From glass to glass = 1184mm (1200mm - 16mm)
Debra
By the way, the material has a width that I don't know yet, meaning a piece of 1.2 meters won't be exactly 1200mm, as some will be lost in cutting; otherwise, some legs will end up much shorter. This is not critical for the suspension - the end caps are 3mm thick, so it might even be more. However, with the legs, depending on the design, there may not be enough or there may be excess. I will need to experiment with the leg options.
Christopher1252
Then I need a profile of 1184mm (+/- 1mm if you can) and end caps. I will make the legs myself.
Vanessa
Are you talking about this option? I attached a sketch that I made once for my mini. That is, the legs were on the front and back walls of the aquarium, but everything needs to be calculated precisely so that it fits perfectly.
Debbie3587
If the aquarium is 50 cm, it will be quite spread out, although that option is quite acceptable. I was thinking of leaning on the side panels.
Curtis9143
Guys, let's move the orders to commerce; this is only for technical questions. Or let the moderators merge them at their discretion.
Wanda666
I have a small request, please inform me via private message when the profile is ready, as I cannot follow the topic (my computer is broken, and I don't know how long it will take to fix it).
Melissa3820
Of course, each client will receive a notification in their personal messages.
Elizabeth
Is there still room in the order for 1 meter?
Nancy
The trial batch has already been sent out. There are 4 pieces at the auctions, damaged during transportation. We tested some production aspects and partially set them up - I will be ordering a batch for sale. I hope it will be ready in a month, or maybe even sooner.
Paul
I boast...