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Maria
Mark
In general, regarding the appearance. Blue and purple at 100%, the others "to taste." On/off time - to taste. Dawn/dusk - 1 hour.
Christina9947
I'm mainly interested in what tastes others have. Do you have a table like the one linked?
Melissa1838
No. I was just adjusting it "to taste." You should read Karen's post at the end of the links. He knows what he's talking about, after all, he's a world-class hydrobiologist.
Nicholas2252
I read, and that's why I want to know how to beautifully arrange it using examples from other people. With red, it somehow works to decorate, but I just can't understand where to use green and how much is needed for beauty.
Sarah7284
Green is usually at 100%. Actually, only the red is adjusted for "colorfulness." Or orange, if it exists.
Amber6362
There is a topic on lighting.
Laura3615
I had the same situation and thought it was a wrong setup, but after trying a lot of configuration options and finally getting it right, I realized that it wasn't the DNA that was bad, but I didn't know how to set it up correctly. Additionally, the corals also need to get used to the LEDs. Once I set it up correctly and the corals got used to it, everything became good for everyone.
Jessica8898
There is no accounting for taste, and people's preferences differ from one another. I do not claim that DNA assembly is bad, but for me, it is very expensive and has a lot of unnecessary elements. The main point is that for this money, we can assemble something just as good, if not better, for that amount. Therefore, this is an endless and pointless discussion.
Andrea8397
In my opinion, based on our experience, the LED has been installed, 3 channels at 90%. We and the residents are satisfied.
Jeffrey6189
I completely agree that there is excess; there is a red light in every star, and although there are 7 stars, 2-3 LEDs would have been enough for the entire chandelier. Also, instead of 3 white ones, or rather 2 white and one yellow, one white could have been removed, but everything else is great. In China, you can get it cheaper, and it's just as good, if not better, in some aspects.))
Leonard
What exactly? The lamp or the components (specifically the diodes). In principle, I can answer both - it's not that simple...
Cynthia
People, let's continue discussing interesting points in the configuration and setup of ice rinks, as well as all the pressing and emerging questions.
Melinda2740
Buying in China is usually a big lottery, and neither the seller's rating nor the price guarantees that you will receive exactly what you ordered; sometimes even the seller doesn't know that they were cheated in the procurement, and rarely does anyone check the details.
Chad
I mean the fixtures, what exactly is not so simple?
You speak as if there are no other purchasing options besides Alibaba and eBay. I buy from a large company that provides all the tools and guarantees for the fixtures. They operate worldwide. I have ordered fixtures for the sea multiple times and can say that they are much better designed than most DIY projects like DNA and so on. And the price is more acceptable, even compared to our DIY projects.
Jesse3979
Can you provide links to the company or the specifications of the fixtures? Thank you.
Rebecca
Valera, such a chandelier will cost several times more than the DNA assembly and components.
Heather6148
approximately the same price, maybe a little more expensive, but it's worth it.
Stacey4437
Well, roughly speaking, without delivery, it comes to $540 for such a lamp. Right, Valera?
Jason5071
I don't remember exactly, but roughly yes.
Vanessa
I just checked the price, 540 currency units, which will be approximately the price with delivery.
Thomas1044
A lot of things. You were asked: There is still no link, that is, no specifications and nothing but photos. And what about the photos? Well, they look nice, no questions there. But what next? Provide information, for example, about the light fixture you mentioned, and we will compare. How are they "much" better thought out than homemade ones (as you put it)? Don't get me wrong, I wasn't trying to think anything bad, let alone express anything negative towards you. I'm just curious, and I think I'm not the only one.
Christopher4125
VaLeRa, you need to compare apples to apples, not apples and scraps. Please tell me, do you not see that the lamp whose pictures you showed is not full-spectrum and that each source in it consists of only three types of LEDs? The disco will be hardly noticeable only because there is a white LED in each three-LED assembly. But the different spectrum won't go away because of that. Please tell me - am I expressing myself clearly enough, or do I need to clarify?
Steven
Of course, explain, because it's not only *VaLeRa* who reads you, and I want to understand as well. As I understand it, the correspondence of the spectrum on the computer screen and in the aquarium is realized, except perhaps in radiance, and possibly also in the spotlights of the reef lab, with their true spectrum. In other options, the spectrum constructor is helpful, and observe...
Anthony4281
Let's at least wait for some information about the lamp (that is in the photo).
Tina
What to expect, let's discuss it right away...
Phyllis
I understand that in these fixtures, you can choose and install the necessary diodes yourself! And without soldering. A useful thing.
Bethany
Where did you get that from? Regulating the channels separately, yes, but changing the diodes...!?
Amber1273
You provided a link to the website yourself! There you can not only change the diodes, but also the lenses and coolers. Quote: "DIY with modular LED cluster, lens and fans," and there are photos showing how to change them - all on the website.
Jennifer7159
I won't argue with the fact that I'm a noob. As for me, it's a beautiful set and a rich spectrum. Where am I wrong?
Channel A= White cree 7000-8300K 3W 16pcs
Channel B= RoyalBlue cree 450-465nm 3W 16PCS
Channel C= Blue cree 465-485nm 3W 6PCS
Channel D= Violet Epileds 420-430nm 3W 3PCS + Epileds 405-410nm 3pcs
Channel E= Red cree 620-630nm 3W 2PCS
Channel F= Green cree 520-535nm 3W 2PCS
David7773
The LED set doesn't make sense to consider because all these assemblies are THREE-DIODE, while there are SIX types of LEDs! Do you understand what I'm talking about? The assembly must have at least SIX LEDs, and considering that some need to be more numerous than others, even more than that. I can say for sure that for the sea, an assembly with less than 12 LEDs is simply not possible at all.
John828
Well, I wouldn't buy such a lamp either, but:
1. there are not three-diode assemblies, but each diode is separate -
2. the variation in diode parameters due to the desire to cut costs. Randomly, one might get a lamp with a good spectrum. The downside is that the buyer will get a lottery, and the spectrum of one lamp will be slightly different from another.
3. The power per unit length is not high, but for a good half of aquarists, this will be enough.
4. There are only 6 channels.
Brent8919
I am completely confused. You claim that 12 diodes in four three-diode assemblies will produce a different spectrum than the same 12 diodes in one assembly???
Holly
The point is that you need to observe how the creatures behave and believe what you see, rather than what is convenient for someone for everyone to think that way. I didn't just bring up a specific example for no reason, but you ignored it. I'll repeat it for you again.)) What medieval times are we talking about? I'm talking about LEDs, not T8 lamps. You see, our conversation completely corresponds to the example with the lamps; I'm saying that you can use 865 and 840 spectrum lamps for a herb tank, and you tell me that only special lamps should be used, and everything else is from the devil.
Hannah
I think one more post is needed for my point of view to be crystal clear.
I didn't write about construction LED floodlights for nothing. They are now very cheap, and they should be used in case of a tight budget. It is also more reasonable to use them than Chinese fixtures like the one we are discussing here. Because the result will be approximately the same, but you will spend about 30 times less money.
Chelsea567
The more I read you, the more I realize that you don't hear me at all. And I understand even more that everything you write is not worth taking seriously; you are simply pushing your commercial interests, and everything else is irrelevant. You remind me a lot of Akhmatova; there used to be someone like that here in '48.
I was talking about serious accelerated herbalists. I see no point in continuing this dialogue, or rather monologue, because you don't hear me. All the best!
David2398
Unfortunately, everything you write is, at best, a sincere misconception. I am extremely curious about what allows you to make such a conclusion. The question is rhetorical, you don't need to answer. Perhaps I should have lied and said this is a good solution to be in harmony with you?! Not a chance.
Nice
For the flowering of the uvularia, a certain amount of radiation is required, which aligns well with today's understanding of forced herbaceous plants. It will continue like this until you realize that you need to stop writing on this topic and start asking questions. Similarly.
Joshua9847
Ah, so you are DNA, that's why you clung to me so tightly.)) On the first pages, I even defended your lamp.)
Why do you have no questions about your light?))
I understand that you were fine until I started comparing your light to the Chinese... and then you lost it.)
Although I agree with you here, we have enough skilled craftsmen of our own who are no worse than DNA.))
Debra
Did you not know?
Katie5500
No.)) I know DNA, but I don't know Dmitry's enka.)
Rachel
So that's how it is. DNA, I mean. A respected person. It's a pity... So the question remains about the distance between the diodes for proper mixing, as I understand it? I've been sketching it out on a scale. You can gather components from the forum, plus a controller and a spectrum constructor.
Joseph8842
In fact, this one. If you think that experience comes only from quantity, I will disappoint you. Let me remind you once again, you are a theorist without practice. Your assemblies - and the king is naked.
Daniel9952
The main task is to speak beautifully about the product. So that there isn't even a shadow of doubt that the advertised product is not sacred. Immodesty and arrogance are different things. You remind me of an annoying salesperson in a store who asks every new customer the same question. And good luck getting a customer to engage in a dialogue. They'll sell such stale goods, dear me!!!
Luis3725
Since this is the case, I have a few questions for you as the creator of the light I am using. Why are there 2 white and 1 orange in one star? Couldn't it have been 1/1? The red in each star, as I understand, is for even light.
And what is the purpose of the red if no one turns it on? Why so many whites if marine aquarium enthusiasts believe that one should also be careful with white?
Are there any recommendations for setting up your light?
Lee
I already regret that I also have a "DNA assembly" () unpleasant person. The DNA assembly also does not provide an even spectrum. To make sure, turn on one assembly and direct the light at the ceiling. The proposed optics do not change the situation. Moderators should clean up the topic.
Eric5208
Besides your personal opinion like "I can't even eat, I feel such personal dislike," can you say something substantive? I hope this isn't a kindergarten. So there's no need to just ramble on. If you have something to say that's relevant, with data and numbers - go ahead! No? You know what to do, you're not a child.
Wendy
Dmitry, look, there may come a moment when there is not a single person left in the square where you deliver your fiery speeches. My advice to you is to be more modest.
Teresa
You are starting to get too smart; this is an AQUARIUM forum, not a crafts club. Show your aquariums, and then we can talk business. No one denies your knowledge, but you are too categorical in your statements. You present a lot of unnecessary theory, but there is no specificity! Show photos of aquariums with the same conditions under your light and under other lights, and demonstrate the specific difference.
Nicole7122
They are indeed changing. If you use an assembly without a diffuser, you are violating our recommendations.
By the way, to the critics. Using even a dense assembly like ours without a light diffuser leads to the infamous disco effect. You can estimate how many times your "assemblies" are more sparse - your disco will be that many times more cheerful.
Heather9815
Unlikely. You noticed that Dmitry can only refer to someone. The various plants he tried from the 90s to 2004 were grown under kerogas.
Jeremy8404
I absolutely support and agree 100%.
My experience with diffusers is far from perfect, as you describe.
Jessica6754
Yes, I used DRI-250 lamps as a kerogaz since 1997. I was amazed by Kulkov on Ptichka when I brought him my monsters.
Kellie
Only a genius gets everything right the first time; he is a genius, twice KUDOS! We are merely striving for perfection. In October, the 12x assemblies will receive diffusers made from material produced using the 3D holographic technology of Luminit. These diffusers have proven themselves well in spotlights. At first, we were surprised, but then we got used to the fact that the lighting from a point light source—a spotlight equipped with a wide Luminit diffuser—was compared by users to a fixture with T5 lamps.
Patricia
Why do you need these LEDs? You need them for politics, you read between the lines and say only what serves your interests. I already understand you, you don't care what to write, the main thing is to have more links to your site and that's it. Honestly, I will tell you - you haven't convinced me. I don't want to talk about you anymore, too much attention to your product and to you, but it leads to nothing. A few pages ago, I asked you specific questions about your light, but you are not interested in that.
Caitlin3279
I will add.
Many people on this forum, as far as I remember, shouted "why do I need your Cree LEDs" (a quote from some forum member, I don't remember exactly who) and preferred to order 50 pieces of 3-watt diodes for $5 on AliExpress, and that's beautiful. Someone tried to sell Epistar diodes here about a year ago, claiming they were the best global leader in LEDs (this is also a quote from the seller). In general, everyone understands and reasons differently, one way or another...
Hunter1471
Epistar produces a large number of LED crystals. Their parameters vary significantly - from complete junk (this is the rejection beyond binning, which they also sell - if people buy it, why throw it away?) to quite decent ones, although far from the top quality. Guess which crystals are bought for resale by people who can't tell a photon from a loaf of bread?
James1625
Yes, that's how it is, just a little bit different. Indeed, there are no alternatives to TrueSpectrum on the market (here), but it wasn't discussed here. The question is about the categorization of expressions. Why is the parody of Radion, which is defended, considered mega cool, while the parody of Aquamedic (three-diode assemblies) presented by Valera is considered trash? As a buyer, I don't understand. Logically, all our flashlights, Cree on substrates, are not worth the profile they are glued to.
Raven7170
Well, I calculated everything based on the relative minimum. If you delve into the unbinding, it will be even more expensive. The same unique sync pad also costs money, and each assembly (version) is a separate development, requiring separate funding.
Paul
No one says "sucks." The question was whether it was worse or not, and it turns out to be worse in most factors. Not quite. Either I didn't express myself clearly or you didn't read it all... As for the maximum thermal regime for the diode on this board at high currents. Let me add to that.
Emily3144
you miss it a little and here it is, aquamedic...
Nicole2404
Parody is when it's worse, isn't it? I hope you don't mind clarifying how, in your opinion, our assemblies are worse than those at Radion? I can show ten advantages. You show at least one disadvantage. I know two, just so you know.
I have repeatedly tried to show in this thread that if not all types of LEDs are present in the fixture, then, to put it simply, it's not just bad, but a blatant deception of the customer. I also asked if everything was clear in my explanations of why I believe this is the case. Once again, I ask you - please tell me what exactly is unclear in my explanations?
Jeanne
And what does that mean to you? Most old European brands make complete junk in the field of LED lighting. Whether it's Giesemann, Eheim, or Elos - you can't look at them without tears.
People are extremely lazy; no one wants to think. Is a cool brand written on the label? Then the light must be cool, what's so hard to understand! You have to be completely insane to refuse a 500% profit on cheap fixtures and make only 50% profit, meaning selling the right fixtures at the same price.
So thank you, I will know that Aquamedic's fixtures are also junk.
Randall7906
I want to add something about Aquamedic. The products for this brand are indeed always in demand. For example, pH control, ORP control, ozonators, valves, PVC fittings, bio-balls, and some successful models of skimmers. In these devices, Aquamedic is truly a world leader, no matter how you look at it. However, there are worthy (better) alternatives from other manufacturers on the market for many products of this brand, including lighting. If we also compare the classics of the genre, T8, T5, and MH. Yes, they made good fixtures with classic lamps, but they are not the best by many factors.
Brian7092
I cannot argue with you due to a lack of necessary knowledge. Let's make it simpler; you have a spectrometer, right? Check the spectrum from, for example, one red and one blue diode, in one case with 0.5 centimeters between them, and in the other with 5 centimeters, at the bottom of a 40 cm filled aquarium. My school knowledge of physics (with all those prisms) stubbornly asserts that the spectrum will be the same.
Beth3383
There can be nothing simpler than taking any lamp that has LEDs of different colors and turning on the colored channels one by one. If you notice an uneven distribution of certain colors across the illuminated area, it will always be like that. The fact that you turn on some other LED in addition to the one that causes the mottling won't change anything; it will just become less noticeable!
I have a humble request for you - please tell me, was I able to be clear?
Dana6523
You clearly express your point of view. I still believe that at an angle of 120 degrees, at a distance of half a meter, the distance between the diodes within the fixture is not significant. But when I was studying physics, Pluto was a planet, and the diodes didn't light up at all.
Barbara
I wasn't telling a tale about the nine-crystal diode, but a true story. I keep thinking - maybe someone will ask for a photo. But you don't need facts; it's so sweet to be mistaken.
Julia
Dmitry, look at the root of the issue. Why do I need your assembly if I can't adjust it to the size I need? It turns out I have to make the aquarium fit the light, not the other way around. Don't you find that strange, our thousands-of-units seller???
And what are we striving for? A beautiful aquarium is a healthy aquarium. Well, yes, for you as a theorist, it's more important that your assemblies look good from under the profile.
Jonathan6173
Yes, 100%. How can an ordinary mortal like DNA know how long each diode from his mix will last? No way. You have to be very naive to expect that every shipment will be perfect. All major corporations are making a mess of it; only Enko knows how to do lighting properly, and he doesn't even have an aquarium with his own mega assemblies. I will open your eyes, Dmitry... people are in awe of your assemblies BECAUSE THEY HAVE SIMPLY SWITCHED TO LED LIGHTING!!!
Bonnie
In 30 cm, very little will change. See Fig. 2.
Curtis
I allow you to use a file for fitting. You are our hardworking one.
And everyone else makes light on assemblies starting from twenty-five-ton aquariums and ending with miniatures. Should I show you the miniatures or will you believe it anyway, you our skeptical one?
I find it strange that a person who just saw an LED for the first time yesterday is now confident that he knows everything about it! You are our exclusive one.
Do you think that spouting nonsense is a good way to conduct a dialogue? You are our clever one.
Katie4842
The topic turned out to be intense but informative! (for me) I suggest we agree that there are no alternatives to the true spectrum in our market. Aquariums are good, available under different lights, both RLL and three-diode options. And let's continue discussing settings, quantity, proportions... what else is important?... For example, does this constructor take into account the type of assemblies, distance, and depth, or not?? Which constructor is more accurate, which spectrum is better?
Andrew4194
It's up to you to decide. That's exactly why LED lights were invented.
Brent8919
So maybe that's how it is!? How will he make me?? Interesting? If he sets up production in Zhmerinka, then yes.
Read my review of the controllers, written for the battles in this topic, the agony of choice.
Raven7170
Golden words. I won't say that I know the subject better than anyone else in the world, because I learn every day and discover something new every day. But I can answer most tricky questions with numbers and facts in hand. And what can you do, besides making unfounded accusations against me, our modest one?
Alec9378
I replied just in case. Maybe it will be useful.
Angela7060
We will try to resolve the issue with the controllers for a long time very soon, both in terms of price and functionality. A little patience.
Meghan
It would be interesting. But not the technical aspects, rather in terms of aquaristics and benefits for corals. As for being relatively inexpensive, there are solutions in the assemblies that I absolutely do not need, but for which I have to pay. For example, these additional diodes that ensure the assembly works when one of the LEDs fails.
Ronald
I am interested in specific experience comparing identical aquariums with different lighting. I have written this several times already. You are behaving like a troll who doesn't care what to write, as long as you can say that there is only one manufacturer cooler than TM DNA, and we will soon surpass them. It is obvious that you live in Russia, where everyone is world champions. I am absolutely disappointed in TM DNA and specifically in . Cheap PR without any real facts and practice.