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Jennifer5784

You can go for 40-60, but it will constantly nag at you with the thought that there was a chance to go for 120, and you missed it. Eventually, the time will come when you'll want to dismantle the 60 and install the 120. So why put in the extra effort? Some sailors have experienced this before. So just go for 120, and that's it... Especially for future demanding inhabitants, do you catch the difference?

Kristen2246

If you have a 120-liter aquarium, don't hesitate to create a sea in 120 liters.

Cassandra7840

120 liters is definitely enough. And waiting for six months is not necessary; one month of intensive study of the topic is sufficient, and then a classic long launch during which everything unclear will gradually become clear. The main thing is not to rush with settling in. PS 120 is not enough. Later, you will definitely want more.

James4757

What specific equipment is being referred to? If it's live rocks, then only for professionals... It's unclear what you mean - do you want to make a foam filter, light? What exactly?

Michael

Well, let's start with the skimmer. I found some decent options at "Arovana," but it's unclear which one to choose. There are options for aquariums up to 250 liters, up to 500 liters, or even larger. Prices start from 1600.00 and up. Is it worth buying, or should I make one myself? If I make it myself, who should I look to as a reference?

Diana3118

It's not worth trying to make a pen yourself without understanding anything about it. It's better to look for a used Deltek 500 or 600.

Aaron580

Here is someone to look up to. Alexloga Here you can find any kind of pennies you want, but as for quality and appearance, read and find out.

Christopher4125

Actually, there is nothing to add. +100

Matthew1280

Meet a marine aquarist in your city and let them guide you through the process of setting up and establishing your aquarium. Advice on forums can often be contradictory.

Susan

There is a seaman in Poltava, his last name is Karishin, his name is Igor. He is rarely on the forum, but he does come by sometimes. I think he wouldn't mind sharing and telling secrets. It's impossible to please everyone. Well, why not? A lot is sold and bought/exchanged here. Sometimes there are even excesses, livestock grows, etc. Tropic in PRO-REEF Korallen-zucht Ree’s Best Coral Reef Salt Premium Quality This is just off the top of my head; there are cheaper and more expensive options. There's no need to make it; it's already unnecessary in the sea.

Joshua

The price is practically the same..))) How much should I take for my 120L tank? Length - 75, width - 32. I read all day that it's very important and necessary, and you also need to make something like a flute on top and another compartment underneath with any filler, but it's better to use something like foam. It's like another filter.

Julie4738

I don't know them well enough to ask to be their student, and I don't have a strong desire for it for various reasons. But if someone really wants to help, they can reach out; the topic is open, and Poltava can see it too, so... There is a lot of literature, books, and the internet... but to be honest, the main thing here is money. If it doesn't work out, I'll pay for professionals to come and do everything perfectly. But I have the right to make an independent attempt, especially since I'm putting in all the effort, right? Or do you not think so?

Ryan7682

I can help a little with the launch. Do you have a reverse osmosis water filter? We have a shortage of that in our city.

Andrea

You should read the topics in the marine section instead of some literature that is either no longer read or is read between the lines. What other fake materials, foam, flutes? Don't fill your head with nonsense. Moreover, people from your city have already offered to help you. They definitely won't be using fake materials for you...

Julia

Here is a website where reverse osmosis systems are sold, in general, for 1190. You can buy a pretty decent osmosis system, they will deliver it to your apartment, I have had one working for six months - no complaints.

Andrew4194

There is no osmosis, I'm currently looking at what they offer in AROVANA. It's just that it's not clear which one to choose. In general, there are many of them, and I don't see much difference, only the volume they provide is different... Don't worry, I'm reading the forums. But sometimes the information on the forums is outdated as well. And without a false bottom, how will the substrate be siphoned? If it doesn't, what will accumulate in it?

Eric

Here is a website where reverse osmosis systems are sold, in general, for 1190. You can buy a pretty decent osmosis system, they will deliver it to your apartment, I have had one like this working for six months - no complaints.

Ross

By the way, I have a question: should the osmosis system be installed for the entire apartment or just for the aquarium? I mean, if I don't want to use distilled water for personal needs, can I turn off the osmosis or somehow block it? I'm not really interested in cooking soup with distilled water...

Brandon9634

There is no need to siphon the sand, it's better to read the post.

Brandy

you only need one like this for 1490 UAH. It must have a pressure pump since the water pressure in our city is weak.

Kevin

Having cash in your wallet doesn't make you smarter, just so you know. Pay the professionals, they'll do the job and leave, but then what? You always have the right, but the right to make mistakes can sometimes be very costly, which has already discouraged many. Three years ago, I also didn't know anyone, didn't have sailor friends, but now I have many, and they are very interesting people who help with advice and action. At sea, we are all eternal students; the more we know, the more questions we have.

Guy

Of course, you can do everything separately and independently; there is a separate faucet and tank in the set, and everything is available to do.

Brooke3987

Thank you. So let's stop here. I'm telling you that I'm learning. It takes time. I would have shared everything with you right away without any extra questions. Or what? I don't understand why nitpick on words; they will come, do it, leave, if they don't teach, then they will come again... the second time it will be understood.

Jessica5016

You make me uneasy. How do you plan to understand the sea? "Head-on"? I'm afraid disappointment will come much sooner than you expect... It won't siphon, but banal detritus will accumulate. It's not fatal. I'm afraid to ask, where? +100 No problem, just turn off the tap on the osmosis and don't use it.

Joseph2576

We have decided on osmosis. We are still pending on the soil. If we believe the rumors that tetra is now being imported from China, what is its current quality? And how many kilograms? Is there some limit or should we take approximately?

Jennifer5371

Too bad Nick Deakin - Marine Aquarium, section on bottom filters.

Anne

For the launch, it will be quite suitable; after all, during the launch, substitutions happen much more often than in a well-established aquarium. Based on a calculation of 33-34g/liter. If you take it by buckets, it will ultimately be cheaper. At the beginning, on the title page, in the publication date column, stands the diagnosis of this "reasoning."

Craig7302

Yes.. 1996. ) Well, the basics are still the same.. it's just that new equipment has appeared... but the water parameters for the sea are the same now as they were then.. at least it's written in an accessible way, but on the forums, there are just abbreviations like DK, JK (live rocks), BK... ))))) What can you understand if you see this kind of text for the first time? And each person shortens something and mixes in their own jargon, and it all turns into a mess.

Luis3725

Then it's better to have a reef aquarium. Author: Ov A.V., Savchuk S.I. Publisher: Renata. Year: 2005. To be honest, I don't know a single person who has a false bottom in a marine aquarium.

James5103

I ended up with 3.5 kg, which seems a bit low... Maybe I calculated it wrong? I also read it. At the beginning, I wrote that I read one book in the morning, another in the evening, and during the day, if I have time, I read forums. Is that really not enough?

Scott8536

Do you watch a black-and-white TV at home, or what? Basically, in the 60s, images also moved across the screen, just in a different quality. You might not get it the first time, but after that, it goes smoothly...

Scott9892

I agree, but we can start with something like this; at least it will become a bit clearer. Well, fine... no need for that... I was already getting ready for a false note... )

Lee425

How can I put it, theory is good and necessary, but seeing it with your own eyes and experiencing it in person is even better. Believe me, it's hard without communication. But you have all of this ahead of you. Time will set everything in its place.

Frank7213

If someone shows their aquarium live and provides commentary, I would be all for it... I would listen, engage, and take notes. But I will tell you this - people who make money from something are not very eager to share their secrets. There's no point in being offended or asking too many questions; these are the laws of business. For now, I will go read more about it. )

Joseph8842

It's not clear, do you think that if a person has one or two marine aquariums at home, they are in the "business" and will walk around in dark glasses and sit behind seven locks so that, God forbid, no one finds out? You surprised and amused me. You seem to be confusing something with someone.

Luis3725

I wasn't talking about such people.

Kenneth2761

And about what???? It's in the freshwater lakes (I confess, I was like that too) that there's something new and everything is immediately in codes. In the sea, there are no secrets; they won't elaborate, that's true, but they also won't hide anything.

Javier5186

People are different. I personally have encountered this. Since it is not ugly, I will not say who behaves this way, because they know it themselves and it is their right, and I have nothing against it. But after such an experience, the desire to seek out "students" has completely disappeared.

Jessica5016

100%

Alyssa6727

Am I far from chemistry, or is there a difference between distilled water and osmosis? After all, distillation is the evaporation of a liquid followed by cooling and condensing the vapors, while osmosis is the process of pushing a liquid through VERY fine membranes that should retain everything except water molecules. As I understand it, after osmosis, something still remains in the water, albeit in much lower concentrations.

Sara4035

If the water is passed through an ion exchange resin after osmosis, what remains in the water cannot be detected by simple tests.

Mitchell3177

Not everyone is ever satisfied. Some livestock is acceptable, but live rocks are not. Tetra, AquaMedic, Instant Ocean off the top of my head. Not needed. Do not do it. Do not connect the external filter. Do not put sponges on the pumps.

Julie

As far as I understand, with osmosis or distillation, all of the water's properties, not only harmful but also beneficial, are removed, right? How can one prepare or drink such water, as it is useless and even harmful to the body?

Nicole2404

Please explain why we need to use UV? After all, it kills algae and small harmful organisms that can later cause fish diseases. How then can we protect the fish?

Andrew9581

All dissolved substances are removed from the water, not the properties, in order to get as close as possible to H2O (rather than the salt solution that flows from our taps). Add spices to your taste, and it will benefit your body.

Paul

I say that UV is necessary in marine aquaristics (only for the sea). It has helped me personally, and many of my sailor friends in difficult situations, but that's another topic, especially since it has been raised multiple times. P.S. I repeat, listen to those who successfully maintain marine aquariums at home.

Daniel8015

I also think it's necessary, I'll dig into the topics now. Honestly... I'm sitting here thinking... this isn't needed, that isn't needed, so where do all those money go, everyone says the sea is so expensive! at least $1500 What are they investing it in?

Jesse

It depends on the volume in question. Some aquariums started at 1500, and today their owners are simply afraid to calculate the "TOTAL."

Jeanne

read here, questions answers and about UV

Sheila

I managed to get rid of the crypto, so I need it, but only for emergencies. As for money, if you buy everything gradually, it's almost unnoticeable, and you can buy pets from forum members for cheaper.

Laura7633

Dear, it seems you haven't invested a single penny yet. Once you acquire at least UV, PC, JC, SRK (dry reef rocks), salt, 60 kg, ME, tests for pH, KH, NO2, NO3, PO4, and I haven't even listed half of it, then you'll understand what you're investing in... By the way, I recommend UV. You won't regret it later.

Anne4851

Necessary. And also an ozonator, denitrifier, dosers for phytoplankton and zooplankton, trace elements, calcium chloride, growth hormones - and such things happen, plus a couple of dozen additives that I'm too lazy to remember. Are we still talking about a 40-100 liter aquarium? In which a pair of clownfish will live? 2: I still don't understand, is a sump planned for the aquarium or not?

Charles

Imagine we are talking about cars. Let's say a Zaporozhets and a BMW X5. For both, it is equally important to have wheels, an engine, a transmission, and a steering wheel, but you can't take a part from the Zaporozhets and put it on the BMW. And the other way around won't work out well either.

Curtis9143

For a 40L tank, you can manage without a sump and a protein skimmer, provided you do a weekly water change of 20-30%. Although I understand that regenerating water is easier (read cheaper). However, if you're setting up a 100L tank, a protein skimmer is essential, but I have doubts about the necessity of a sump, considering some aquariums without one. The advantage of a sump is the absence (minimization) of equipment in the display aquarium.

Jessica9188

In my opinion, the owner is aiming for a 120-liter aquarium, or am I mistaken? Yes, there are wonderful marine aquariums without a sump. Consult him on this matter. He has never had a sump. However, everything is thriving.

Collin

Is it possible, just out of curiosity, to find out the ideal option? I think I’m planning, but I didn’t understand what streams are—sorry. What does additional mean? Is there something besides the penny, the samp, and the osmosis? Or should I just keep the penny? I don’t get it. Yes, you are right. I’m interested in whether the samp complicates the process of taking care of the aquarium or makes it easier? As far as I understand, it’s the second option. So why not take advantage of it... or not?

Jacqueline5976

One more question. The lid. Do I need to cover the aquarium with glass or a net to prevent the inhabitants from jumping out? How can I avoid this? Especially since there are curious young cats in the house that don't hesitate to dip their paws into the water and try to catch a fish... Or can I make a regular lid like those on planted tanks or cichlid tanks?

Andrew7823

A cat won't go into salty water... It is not recommended to cover with glass for marine aquariums. Your corals will need a full light spectrum. Regarding the lid, check the equipment section for marine aquariums. You will then conclude that it is better and safer to use a lamp or a non-standard lid, for which it is difficult to guarantee reliability. Since marine fish can also jump out, the aquarium should have a rim along the glass. A sump is a biotechnological system designed to perform auxiliary functions for cleaning the water in an operating aquarium and to house equipment intended to maintain stable physical and hydrochemical parameters.

Natasha

Thank you, but I have already read all of this a long time ago. I expressed my thoughts a bit unclearly, and I apologize. It's just that people sometimes write like this without clarifying. It creates the impression that everyone has their own approach and each person gives up something in favor of something else, while in reality, I don't see that as possible, especially considering the pollution of our water. It seems to me that the more filters you use, the better off you'll be in the end. So there was no question of giving up the foam or other means either. Although I've heard that there are aquariums without a sump, or ones that only rely on water changes, but that just seems like more hassle.

David4968

There is no ideal at all, but if you're looking for something more advanced, you can check out skimmers from Deltec, H&S, AquaC, or ATI. It's a pump for creating flow, looking like a fan in a cage. For example, Besides the skimmer, a sump is not filtration; it's a glass box for housing bulky equipment. You can hang a skimmer on the main aquarium, but it won't look very nice, and the risk of flooding increases significantly. Reverse osmosis is a completely different matter - it's water treatment and has nothing to do with water filtration in the aquarium. P.S. I would actually ban someone for such an answer to a beginner.

Michelle5859

Well, you can order a Pennik for three hundred bucks, and it will be better than Aquamedica. As for pumps, you need circulation pumps for a marine aquarium, not regular Atman heads. Among the budget options are Koralia and San-San, or the more expensive Vortek or Tunze. You need at least two of them and should install them in a way that avoids dead zones. As I mentioned, you can also use an Atman 2000 l for the return, but the PH series is more reliable.

Chad231

What are you talking about! Where is the crime in this phrase that is quite accessible for a beginner? Or has he never seen an aquarium in his life? Is this better in your opinion? By the way, I would like to take a look at your glass box. What heights have you reached...

Alyssa6727

What is a "biotechnogenic device"? Explain it to me, poor thing. Better than what? A biotechnogenic device? Significantly. I suggest we move straight to measuring penises. That's when it will become clear who is a specialist in marine aquaristics and who just came to chat.

Charles5941

I will explain when I see your tropical reef marine aquarium, about 600 liters. Only then will it make sense to engage in a debate. For now, regarding you, this is my last post. P.S. It turns out that a beginner in freshwater (!!!!) aquaristics can enter the marine section to teach those who have been working with the sea for 15 years. Nonsense!

Joseph9203

It seems to me that every third sailor on the forum uses skimmers; I also have one of his devices and I'm satisfied. As for the Atman, I have several pumps from the RN series - return, skimmer, calcium reactor - they practically never turn off - everything is working fine. Sanek's have been running continuously for over a year - very good and efficient pumps for the money. But I'm not pushing them on you - there are specialized pumps specifically for the sea, like Tunze, for example, or Eheim pumps.

Angela

For God's sake!!!! Just not Tunze!!! Better Atman...

Caroline1599

Yes, the word "biotechnogenic" amused me. So, if translated, it means "born from life (nature) and human industrial activity." Indeed, it seems quite complicated to me for a glass (not necessarily, by the way) tank with equipment.

Kimberly4253

I have used skimmers from A, Atman, and Aquamedic. The most important thing is that you shouldn't buy Atman skimmers (or other Chinese ones) - they are like fake Christmas ornaments: they look real, but... Skimmers from A are popular mainly because of their power, i.e., "the water quality from them is better." But for every plus, there is a minus. A powerful skimmer has a powerful pump that heats the water significantly. In a 120-liter aquarium, this can be a serious problem. Also, some skimmers from A can be quite difficult for a beginner to set up. In my opinion, skimmers from A are good for advanced aquarists who know exactly what they want.

James3382

Oh! How is that?

Jade

Filtration, flotation, live rocks, algae scrubber, calcium reactor - these are all water regeneration systems, meaning they restore the water properties to those as close as possible to what they were before salinization. This involves removing unnecessary dissolved organics, nitrates, nitrites, etc., and adding some absorbed beneficial substances (such as calcium for corals). It is possible to regenerate, or to reduce the amount of waste through periodic water changes with freshly prepared water. This is suitable (economically viable) for small systems up to 50 liters.

Chad

I specifically got up, went, took Ova-Savchuk and looked. There, the phrase "technogenic filtration system" is used (which is also somewhat incorrect, but acceptable), while I was struck by the words "technogenic device." Any DEVICE (unit) is technogenic by definition. Living nature has not yet learned to create mechanisms. And I have never argued that for a beginner, there is currently nothing better than Ova-Savchuk.

Bethany

Dear all, is it possible to avoid fighting? I understand the urge, but still...

Lee425

Damn, I missed something)))

Vanessa6144

not at all an idiot! For 120 liters, it will install a 6-watt foam generator with good performance. So let's not overload it.

Melinda2740

For now, let's just keep it that way - no arguing and no fussing. Otherwise, we might get grumpy.

Jerry

I’ll lighten the mood a bit; I have a small freshwater tank with four guppies and some shrimp. It’s next to the marine aquarium, and I don’t really know why I keep it—probably out of nostalgia. It looks like this: there’s also a spider living in the terrarium at the bottom. So this morning, I threw in some brine shrimp and observed this scene (by the way, in the left corner): It turned out that on Friday, a child came over with friendly parents, and while we were enjoying dinner, he released a guppy into the sea, of course without any acclimation... The fish is eating brine shrimp and looks quite at home now... Catching it is not easy anymore...

David3217

If I were you, I wouldn't rush, or the author of the book might get offended!

Tracy4603

Once I observed - a guppy sat in a marine aquarium for 3 days!

Curtis

As for the topic, read this: a person went their own way, simply salted the water in the freshwater, leaving all the freshwater filters behind, and the water from the tap... the classics are still waiting for when they can play the funeral march and gloat, but for now, they have only quarreled among themselves.

Alejandro

The classics are waiting for when they can play the funeral march - for whom? Ksenia or zoanthids? It's all classic there - pour bad water and get the lower ones. P.S. Good job for the skaters!

Lisa

Well, maybe this option is just what Ms. Frog needs, since she has freshwater... just to manage with a set like the one the author has... cheap and plenty of it... By the fifth page, everyone had already quarreled, still waiting for the thread, and for those who didn't have it at the beginning...

Rodney7316

It only remains to wait for when the end will come, and it will definitely come, it's just a matter of time. Quoting AlexLegend; such a system is unviable and will sooner or later turn into a "salty swamp." I personally feel very sorry for the animals that you have condemned to a slow death. If my post helps you rethink your approach, I will be sincerely glad. AL. It's bad when one stubbornly follows their obstinacy. Experience cannot be bought.

Natasha

I'm not against it. It's just that maybe I have such associations - a sea overgrown with lower beings, no better than a freshwater body that received minimal attention. It's one thing when there's a struggle with the lower beings, and another when everyone deliberately makes it worse. By the way, we can ask the people of Kyiv for osmosis for salting! I think they won't be stingy with the sauce either. We also need to consider one more point - the water from the tap is different everywhere...

Todd

I think the author of that aquarium is only creating problems for themselves instead of making a proper system and creating conditions that are closer to natural ones! It's more comfortable for the animals and less trouble for themselves!

Amanda

I agree! Especially since the authors are from the same region, I take my words back.

Andrew419

Cool! I wonder how long she will live there and what other fish can live in seawater!

Melinda2740

These for sure! Offtopic Anthias squampinnis. Acanthurus - coeruleus, leucosternon, Lineatus, Japonicus, Olivaceus, Achilles. Anthias squampinnis, Gramma loreto, Pseudochromis fridmani. Amphiprion - Ocellaris, Percula, Saracinos, Premnas biaculeatus, Clarkii, frenatus. Centropyge - argi, aurantia, bispinosus, bicolor, loriculus. Paracanthurus hepatus Zebrasoma - velium, scopas, flavescens Naso literatus, elegans, lopezi Salarias fasciatum. P.S. Post for Offtopic.

Robert

pray.

Courtney

I had an idea: why not try black "mole" in the fight against planaria, and maybe after successful acclimatization it would start to eat it? Unfortunately, the result was tragic; it died on the fifth day, and the same fate befell another one. I stopped there.

Cheryl9296

But we lived for 5 days.

William5838

ants ate guppies

Sherri1320

This is what I understand, real feeding, not freezing.

Tara2761

I always fed them with cherries; the only thing that catches them faster is a wrasse catching shrimp, and it's interesting to watch the hunt. Sorry for the off-topic.

Catherine6534

From a freshwater aquarium to a marine one, the following species will readily adapt without much hassle and will live without problems: monodactyls, scatophagus, small flounders (Black Sea). Maybe someone will continue the list...

Mary

I once set up a system with molly fish - we lived wonderfully. For sure six months, then I don't remember where they went.

Dana4701

Offtopic: By that time, the mantis had grown up.

Gregory9432

spotted argus sprayers (archerfish) periophthalmodon (mudskipper)

Courtney4094

You should first take a look at what topic this is all about! Maybe it's better not to ruin the fish with lists?

Michelle1662

Yes! We got off topic, and it seems to have disappeared somewhere. Although, on the other hand, issues related to the topic "launch, maintenance of marine aquariums, and experiments on animals" are being addressed.))))

Jason9385

Well, you can't really call them 100% freshwater. There is a definition for such fish as "anadromous"/"semi-anadromous" species. Probably the only ones that remain are the carp-like livebearers, and even then with some caveats.

Kenneth7331

Here in Central Asia, monodactyls are sold, and one young monodactyl costs 760. In Odessa, at the old market, a freshwater monodactyl costs 80. I understand that in Central Asia we have the same fish... but why such a different price? Or are they different fish?

Jamie3553

The fish is the same, but the price is different. Monodactylus are supplied in two types - seba and argenteus, the price difference is insignificant. In terms of care, there is none.

George5104

Is there information about the presence of this fish in the reef? What kind of "friendship" will there be with the corals?

Kevin3579

I haven't disappeared, I just have other problems besides the sea))) right now I'm also "raising" a kitten, reading relevant literature for that, plus work and home.. I'm also reading Ova, it's a long book, and since I've only read the first chapter, I've already forgotten it a bit—so I can say I'm reading with repetition to memorize it and not get confused later... I'm also keeping an eye on the topic, but there have been debates among people on questions I don't know yet, so I'm staying quiet; I still lack experience, I'm reading and learning from them.. By the way, happy St. Nicholas Day to everyone, may he bring you much joy, goodness, and happiness.

Angela

An interesting topic, but... it starts to resemble "On the Design of a Castle in an Aquarium." They dragged it out, dragged it out, the cat by the Fabergé... and it all ended there, either the cat died or the castle fell apart. You still have time - you’ve been toying with the "keyhole" topic for six months.

William5838

The most basic osmosis will produce 120 liters per day. In any case, mine produces that much even without a booster pump. 1st floor of a 9-story building. I bought it on this forum.

Chris

Could you please point me to where I can buy this on the forum? According to the links in this thread, it was 12 liters per day in TTD - that's what got me thinking. My water pressure is good, or rather, whatever I set it to is what it will be, so I guess I don't need a pump. Thanks for the "tip."

Stephanie3084

TDS meter - here - You can also buy an osmosis system there. And on the Forum - here - I researched the issue in advance, so I bought it without a storage tank, a faucet for the sink, without a post-filter, and with standard connectors.

Helen

Before buying a booster pump, you need to replace the first 5-micron polypropylene filter... (I change mine a couple of times a month), the filter gets clogged (and with poor water quality, they get clogged often): the performance of the reverse osmosis drops sharply...