• The color problem of corals

  • Deborah2682

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Jason9952

Denis, I agree to participate, one test subject coral will arrive to you in the coming days!!!!

Brent5588

Well done, Denis, it's a great topic, and you are doing a very important and necessary thing. It's a pity that I live far from you, otherwise I would participate with great pleasure.

Wanda666

Hi, Denis. Let me guess - the miracle chemistry from coralenzukh?

Reginald5073

I will answer for Denis. It's not that simple...

Kristen1161

I think the experiment is set up incorrectly))) It's obvious even to a fool that all the newly arrived corals in your aquarium will gain color. The point is for them to gain color in, let's say, the clients' aquariums. P.S. From my side, I want to say that about three weeks ago I also got into the Aifirov technologies)) so far, the effect is only observed in growth. The next step will be to achieve color.

Christopher1774

It's not about Denis's aquarium! It's about the aquarium of the company iReef. We don't hide it; anyone can come and see it... Denis and I don't use in our aquariums what we do in one of the aquariums at our breeding facility. This experiment is not based solely on KZ, although of course this company plays one of the main roles...

Randall7906

The thing is that it will be very difficult to understand exactly what caused the color change. Too many factors influence this - light, filtration, flow, density and composition of the population, feeding, method of calcium addition, etc. Therefore, to achieve similar stable results in other systems, it will be necessary to recreate almost all the factors. Perhaps it’s not so complicated, the secret is revealed and one tablet will be enough. We are looking forward to it.

Elijah7048

the last acre is no longer yours ))

John828

A lot of our acres are no longer ours))) The main thing is the result.

Laura3673

Yes, there was one today... The photos are resting. A real "photoshop" of colors - in the aquarium. I didn't recognize the green seriatope at all - the colors of the briarium!

Amy5070

So they get painted with gouache every day. Of course))))))))

Stephanie3084

And whose second acros is it?

Travis572

my

Melissa1838

I would like to understand a couple of points.... At what moment was this photo taken, before, after, or during the process? If it was after... what did they look like before.... What lighting was used for these corals before the experiment? (please provide details), for each coral - a big request... What lighting is present during the experiment? details... What is the growth dynamics of the subjects? I would like to see their photos in about two to three weeks..... Sorry for the inconvenience.

James3382

The photos were taken after taking one tablet; this is a detailed response, and it will be more than enough.

Brandi

As for the pill, let's go into more detail!!!

Danielle

The right questions were asked - they shouldn't be ignored. If the corals arrived in excellent condition, that's one thing, but if they were brown and then turned into a rainbow after the tablet, that's something else. And also... I am against the use of biospore.

Elizabeth1221

It was May 6th, Denis would like to see and learn more about the miraculous recipe, a month has passed. Please share. Best regards.

Andrea6761

As for the brown, I can't deny it, one of my little corals was really bad, though it's not yet the color of the rainbow, but it's getting bluer and bluer. And this is without any STIMULATION!

Kristen2246

The first post contains all the information, what other questions are there? We're waiting.

Kimberly3727

Colleagues, let's not rush IReef; maybe the miraculous recipe isn't working for some reason, and then Denis and Stas's conclusions will be confirmed? Let's wait another month... or even two...

Jonathan6173

Question for & At what distance from the light is the coral located? Additional question - do you use balling?

Sheila1322

Yes, it's about her. I got a fragment from Stas the Alpine once. Now it's about 10 cm. But the color is still holding up, damn it))) - brown. The trick is that the fragment I accidentally broke off is pink.

Spencer7805

The thing is that it's above. 10 cm from the water. The lamp is 15 cm from the water. So the power is enough. But there is either a lack of spectrum or too much organic matter. However, since it's the third month and I have sterility, I'm complaining about the light. We'll see about that. My friend has a kilowatt of light. The corals are all white and growing well. Again, we return to the question of color.

Jennifer7578

Seriatopora. In front of it is a deer horn that is growing, but it hasn't taken on color yet. Sorry for the phone photo. I just took it) The camera is at work) If Stas is watching, his little one sends him greetings)

Raven7170

lower it to the bottom and don't touch it for a month until the excess zooxanthellae are gone I got a chocolate-colored montipora digitata from Stas, placed it under MH 20K - it's already red with millepora similarly if I were you, I would change the MH - put Radium or BLV 20K

Beth3383

The growth points are significant. However, it branches downwards somehow.

Jeremy8404

What advice can you give me? On the contrary, I have a lack of light.

Earl

My setup is located about 27 cm from the light. Yes, I dose with Balling and add iodine and strontium from Aquarium Systems every two weeks.

Martha

With this coral, there are usually no color issues. It looks great under 14K light. Dima and I have one problem; we got it from Stas, but it usually resolves itself. Yours looks a bit pale; I think the system hasn't matured yet. You either need to wait a bit longer or check if there are any weak spots.

Kyle

How far is he from the light? And what is the height from the lamp to the water surface?

Mariah

Sanya, maybe I'm confusing something, but the increase in zooxanthellae will grow with depth. The less light there is, the more the coral relies on zooxanthellae for food. Or am I wrong? If so, please correct me.

Andrew7823

Lyoha, if your eye is pink, then everything is okay. At least in the photo, it looks healthy.

Charles894

the most "correct" of all mentioned - at . Clear pink color. No polyps. At least - distinctly expressed. It seems that at & is washed by secondary flows, while Alexey () has a medium pressure. I have around 700 and 900, almost opposing, next to the coral.

Diana8604

Here you can see a fragment of a seriatopora. It's really pink. Sorry again for the photo. Maybe next week I'll start my own thread with better photos.

Emily

In fact, my polyps are the same as Alexey's Seriatopora. It's just that mine are lighter, and as a photographer, he is better than me! As for the "correct" color... I don't think the question can be posed that way! I believe they look different in nature depending on their location on the reef.

Joyce

I have a Seriatopora Resan Wave 15K with shaft A. The distance is 30 cm.

Christopher3770

Yes, in the second photo, the "correct" layout. Is this one under another lamp? At what depth?

Larry9400

Coral itself does not make any decisions. The presence of different species and densities of zooxanthellae depends on the conditions in which the coral is located. The determining factor for the existence of a particular species of zooxanthellae is the intensity and spectral composition of light. If you lower the coral to the bottom, both will change, and it’s better to replace the lamps as well.

David4089

Yes, but pink predominates, for the most part. () - visually, not in the photo - is it more pink for you or still somewhat orange?

Jeffery

Everything is pretty much the same. On the left, there is a box at 20 cm. Reflux lamps are everywhere.

Lindsey3628

Sanya, I'm talking about the theory. With increasing depth, the number of zooxanthellae on the organism's body should increase. Zooxanthellae seem to be either brown or green in some cases. That is, the deeper the coral, the darker its color becomes, leaning towards brown.

Rodney7316

Powerful, although the "nest" branches out thinly. But that makes it more beautiful.

James3382

It is either washed by the return flow or from below, depending on the speed of the VorTech pump.

Erin2730

T5 lamps are 10 cm from the water surface. The Seriatopora is 30 cm ± 2 cm from the surface. I think it’s quite rare, although many side growth points have appeared; let’s see what happens by the end of summer. Yes, you guessed it, the current is moderate, flowing from the four corners towards the center with a slight swirl. I can’t say for sure, but it seems to me that it’s closer to pink, although it also looks brownish-pink.

Brandy

Again T5. And the color. And the growth points are awesome. At what depth is the coral? What is the overall light? Do you add supplements?

Theresa5149

In my frag tank, the Seriatopora directly under the light has a pronounced pink color. The frags, the further they are from the light, the less pink they become. If you place a brown frag under the light, it will turn pink in a few weeks. However, it cannot be definitively stated that just placing it under the light will guarantee success. First and foremost, water quality and the presence of micro and macro elements for growth are essential, and feeding won't hurt either.

Robert800

It is positioned at the top (about 10 centimeters from the surface), the flow is reflected, with two 20,000 lamps, two 15,000 lamps, and four 10,000 lamps. There are no additives besides water changes and balling.

Stuart

I know a joke on this topic: the ending is "a cockroach without legs can't hear!" Well, it's not that straightforward!!!!

Joseph

a legless bug still cannot see

John

Yeah, you touched a nerve a little. Actually, I think there's no need to create new ones: it's better to provide a link to the RC where I can read confirmations of your words. Otherwise, these statements are just your opinions.

Brian6895

Please provide justification. The same Kazakhstan recommends using zeolites specifically to combat organic matter, which quickly converts to nitrates and phosphates. How do corals consume it? I probably still have a lot to learn; I find this very interesting.

Adam

I agree with Dmitry 100%. As close to nature as possible... There is practically NO dissolved organic matter in the water on the reefs - it is a very poor environment. That’s why the transparency is accordingly low. Our aquariums, compared to nature, are just swamps. Regarding growth - many factors influence growth - KH, Ca, light (its intensity, spectral composition), and current has a significant impact on growth... (to be continued)

Derek7322

Are you hitting me where it hurts?))) Don't make me laugh) The topic is based on our experience. Unfortunately, we can't keep up with the RC and AL forums, as well as others... Yes, this is our opinion, and it is backed by practice, no matter how painful it may sound to some!

Lee

You really surprised me)))))) Phytoplankton and zooplankton - isn't that organic? The products of the life activity of living organisms - isn't that organic? Bacteria - isn't that organic? What do corals on reefs feed on then?

Erin2730

Let's talk about the influence on corals in K, I'm interested in that. At high levels of 15-16 and normal levels of 8, I haven't noticed any significant reaction from the corals. Added after 1 minute: I don't think this is the necessary organic matter for corals. Correct me if I'm wrong. As for everything else, yes, it's good organic matter, we add it.

Brandon4517

Oh, the field of experiments! ... And the cockroach without legs can't see either...

Vincent

No, phytoplankton, zooplankton, and bacteria are not organic matter, nor dissolved organic matter. Let's remember the water exchange on the reef: all the waste products of living organisms are quickly carried away by currents. Our small ponds can at best be compared to lagoons. And recreating that diversity of phytoplankton, zooplankton, and bacteria in our aquariums is simply impossible. I don't think I need to explain why.

Karen

We will create a topic about growth soon, where we will write everything about what we are doing and how the corals reacted.

Kellie

I take you at your word.

Sarah5423

Is the offer only for Airif or for all forum members?

Ricky9405

so the proposal based on Airif is to organize everything

Cheyenne2747

The party used to gather at the supplies.

Elijah7048

No one is going to create such diversity as in nature!!! Read the post carefully!!! "Maximally close to natural!!!" Dissolved organic matter is one of the key links in the food chain of marine organisms. I would like to conclude this topic, not to show off my intelligence or to point out your lack of experience, etc. This topic was created because we have aquariums and we have been able to achieve colors that are not artificial, but natural! Which is what we WANTED to share... If everyone already knows everything, I see no point in continuing.

Rodney3101

You have intrigued the people (iReef), it's probably time to stop holding back. The date of the first post is 06/05/2010. And there are already results, after all. We ask, we ask.

Caleb6320

Continuing makes sense, in fact, the topic of coral growth already exists: it can be continued (Denis has already commented there). Regarding dissolved organic matter - reduce and only reduce! We won't achieve such low levels as in nature. And most importantly: you created the topic with some kind of mystery, like you all struggle here, and maybe someday we will tell you something... maybe... if we want to. Vague answers were given to specific questions from forum members. That's all.

Aaron

Here, here. This is a secret born in the secret laboratories of Airif.

Mary

Stas, it depends on which part of the reef! At the crest of the reef, there is indeed little organic matter, but at depth and in the lagoons, there is plenty of it.

William

Only SPS corals do not grow in lagoons, and if they do, they are brown. I would like to add the following remark about the color of corals: many factors influence color, one of which is light. In my system, the same species of SPS corals grow in the display aquarium and in the frag tank. The colors are fundamentally different. In the display tank, of course, they are better. In the frag tank, the corals grow faster, but the colors are rather dull. I should change the lighting there...

Richard

Then we should rename the topic to "Color Problem with SPS Corals."

Noah1632

Stas, maybe enough with the RC, classmates, etc. We have systems that contain an N-amount, coral time, which can be seen at any time, unlike the RC. There's no need to constantly look for a catch.

John5528

Damn, I'm not looking for a catch. I'm looking for information. And come visit me - I'm also doing well with flowers. Lately, even very well. That's not the point. I haven't received any information from you. The topic is over a month old, and you haven't written anything. P.S. You really made a small revolution in SPS supplies. The corals are coming in very well colored and hold their color.

Selena4467

We do not make revolutions, we do it the way it should be!

Carrie1606

I would really like to know your recipe, especially since Denis said on May 6, 2010, at 01:30 that we would find out soon.

Amy9618

We share all the information, there is no special secret! The desire to share information has diminished lately due to interested and dissatisfied parties... Who only need cheap advertising for knowingly low-quality equipment and chemicals. Best regards!

Caleb6320

Some childish excuse. Will you create a similar topic about coral growth? You present your vision of the issue, your opponents with cheap chemicals and equipment will write their own; we, ordinary participants, will also add comments from our own experience. Who knows, maybe the truth will emerge. Otherwise, it's unclear why the topic was created.

Tammy

You are following your intended course, and your method is interesting to many (though it may be unnecessary for some and irritating, the reason is unclear to me). Any information from practitioners is valuable, and implementing it in life is a personal matter that should be decided individually; this is my opinion. P.S. On our forum, everything new is met with resistance and is often criticized, and there are countless examples of this.

Ashley5975

It is more than clear, and there is nothing to add. Thanks to many "experts," every civilized step is perceived as a revolution! If there is something to say about the colors of corals, please bring the text to the studio!

Natalie

If there is anything to say about coral colors, please share the text!!! Golden words But I have nothing new to say, I am an old believer: low level of dissolved organics (good skimming, sorbents, zeolite, bacterial culture, vodka method...) + stable conditions + sufficient amount of macro and microelements (calcium reactor, amino acids) + LIGHT. If I am wrong, please correct me. Here is an interesting topic (if you read to the end) The opinion of this aquarist deserves special attention: (it is indirectly related to this topic, but still.)

Kimberly4253

Well, how can one agree with this? How can you learn to ride a bicycle if it hasn't been invented? Moreover, it's easier to ride a perfected one, but that's later; at first, there will be falls and scrapes.

John3335

I expressed myself a bit incorrectly - why try to invent something if the neighbor already has it??? Stas has a clear system for building a riff, and if something is unclear, he will explain it if you ask him. But here it's a magic pill, and it's not clear what it is at all. I want to buy it, please sell it to me and teach me how to use it.

Danny

So, so... Don't make me an enemy of the revolution. All new technologies (in any field) can be divided into 2 types: 1. Complete nonsense, but it allows making money (for example, "thermodom" in construction) 2. Truly innovative technologies that replace the old ones. But the Airifov people don't disclose their technology at all, so no one can draw any conclusions for themselves. You write it down, and everyone will decide for themselves. Criticism will be there anyway! It has been, is, and will always be. For this, you confirm your words with actions.

Andrew4194

I agree that Stas has a great rhyme, and in principle, I almost understand how his system works, although there are still many pitfalls for me (mainly due to my lack of experience). But I am an eternal student, and everything new and interesting is appealing for my self-education. Therefore, I would like to hear from Denis and learn the method or recipe, especially since Denis mentioned on 06.05.2010 at 01:30 that we would find out a bit later, and now it's already 14.06.2010. I think it's time. Best regards.

Lindsey3628

So what are we comparing? About the same 1.5 cm per month. The acroporas are still different. Mine won't be as branching not because it's growing under T5s, but because it's a slightly different species. Overall, everything is correct—the main thing is that the owner likes it!

Tiffany5069

As always, it's "nice" to read the forum, a lot of smart people and little substance... I wanted to share a lot, show, and share experiences, but there are more advanced specialists with greater arrogance and self-importance. I hope the local AUTHORITIES will help all enthusiasts understand the issue of coral color. We want to conclude this useless topic... Thank you very much!