• Problems with Dinoflagellates

  • Wanda666

Let's raise the topic of dinoflagellates, what does everyone know about them? What are the reasons for their occurrence and methods of eliminating them? And who has encountered dinoflagellates in their own experience and how did they overcome them?

Megan

Hey, professors, where are you!? : -))) Why are you silent!?

Kyle

I think it's better to address this issue in the logo. I had them living in the samp for a couple of months, worried that they wouldn't end up in the main aquarium. Then they disappeared on their own. That's all I know about them.

Tasha

Was it specifically dinoflagellates or diatoms? How did you determine that they were indeed dinoflagellates?

Tammy2040

I think it's better to address this issue on the forum. Why is it on the forum? I've read everything there, and even used Google Translate on the Reef Central, there are specialists in marine aquaristics who have faced this problem and... are silent, and I know them! :-))

Kimberly

Under the microscope, dinoflagellates are moving, they are active, as if trembling. Diatoms are passive. Moreover, dinoflagellates seem to disappear when the light is turned off, and when it is turned on, they suddenly start to produce mucus. P.S. I apologize for not using biological terms. Karen wrote in detail about how to distinguish dinoflagellates from diatoms. I have a microscope at home, and I used his advice.

Stuart

Under the microscope, dinoflagellates are moving, they are active, almost trembling. Diatoms are passive. Moreover, dinoflagellates seem to disappear when the light is turned off, and when it is turned on, they suddenly start to produce mucus. The reef dies very quickly - first the hard corals, then the soft ones; the sea urchins shed their spines and also die, the rabbit, the little dog, and the turbo snails died within 4 days... under MH, all the rocks and the bottom are covered in 15 minutes...

Luis3725

Phew, phew, phew over the left shoulder. SERIOUSLY. And what do they say about special medications in such cases (AlgaeX from Fauna, for example)? I'm also curious for general knowledge, has anyone used it?

Christopher

It's an interesting topic why everyone is silent. But the way the prices for livestock have skyrocketed is just TERRIBLE :-)) And then there are dinoflagellates in the aquarium and... corals... and fish... (it will be too late to drink Borjomi - the kidneys have already failed! :-))).

Shawn

I am sharing from my experience that AlgaeX from Fauna did not help, just like ANTI RED from Aqua Medic, and anti sludge (something like that) from the same company that produces CHEMI-PURE, and erythromycin did not help either. Before all this, I used absorbents, including carbon, iron oxide, silicate ex, and Purigen from SIASEM, and prior to that, I did 10% water changes every 4 days with QUALITY salt and TDS-0 water. And there was no result at all.

Richard2180

According to the description, it's definitely them. Moreover, even if you blow on the stones during the day, everything is back in place after an hour? I had this nuisance all summer. For about 3 months for sure. I read that to combat it, pouring kalkwasser instead of evaporated water helps, raising the pH to 8.5, not doing water changes, and just waiting. But no one really knows why they appear and why they disappear later... They went away for me after I started adding vodka to the aquarium to combat nitrates. It might just be a coincidence... But what's most interesting is that the nitrate was at zero when they appeared! P.S. Are you sure you have dinoflagellates and not cyanobacteria?

Dennis

By the way, are you sure you have a dino and not a cyano? It was definitely dino; we looked at it under the microscope, and it was the same. Cyano is not a problem!

Brooke

I have been struggling with Dinoflagellates for about 7-8 months - a strong, resilient nuisance.

John3187

Who won?

Michelle1662

28, Restarting is certainly a radical method! Sometimes it's the only way out. An interesting topic. I would also like to hear the opinions of our fellow sailors! Although I understand that no one will really be able to answer the main question: Why do dinoflagellates appear at a certain stage in the life of the reef and how to deal with them! After all, zooxanthellae are also a type of dinoflagellate... It's just that the type that takes over the entire aquarium is toxic to some reef inhabitants!

Leslie

Good day! Could you please provide a photo of what Dinoflagellates look like in an aquarium? Thank you.

Michael826

I have photos! I have them on my computer - who can tell me how to upload them here!? I don't understand something!

Curtis9143

There in expanded mode - attachment management. Further in the text.

Kimberly3727

Very interesting topic... especially in anticipation of the start of the 600-liter reef... It really gets me excited about the prices for live rock and corals. So, 28, do you claim that it's a dino sentence? Total destruction of which there is no reliable information? Here is the link to them with the logo:

Kathleen

Here are the photos! Just BEAUTIFUL!? :-)))

Lynn4242

According to the link with the LOGO, everything is mixed up there, not DINO!

Rachel9060

Very interesting topic... especially with the upcoming start of the 600-liter reef... It really gets me excited about the prices for live rock and other supplies. So, you claim that it's a dino sentence? Total destruction with no reliable information about its nature? I personally tried everything, both absorbents and a 36-watt UV that burned for 2 weeks, and the result was - oh, and I set up a second skimmer, but according to the tests, the water was empty. I didn't feed the fish at all for 2 weeks (9 fish) in 900 liters. I think if a quick result is needed, it's only a restart!

Stefanie9771

Well, here they are definitely the ones)) It seems like the person solved the problem with a simple darkening of the aquarium.....

Jason

Yes, I thought so too. I turned off the light for 3-4 days, and it seemed to decrease a little (but not completely). I couldn't go longer because the remaining corals felt bad. When I turned on 4 T5s and 2 MH lamps of 150 watts each, it appeared (IT) very quickly.

Amanda

28, I went through the topics on the logo... it seems very likely that this is a problem with not fully matured tanks... maybe when the "client" doesn't want to wait 3-6 months and the aquarium is set up in express mode, these kinds of issues arise? In any case, I have been studying the theoretical part of the sea for a year, I have read hundreds of topics on setups, life, and crashes of aquariums... dinos are isolated cases! Very, very rare...

Amber1273

I also read everything on LOGO and on RIF central as well, while I was struggling with this RED PLAGUE! Rare? I know for sure there were such cases in Kyiv, not counting me there were 3 that I know of - for sure, but how many are unknown? As for the launch, I personally had everything in order... corals and Halimeda were growing full speed... and then IT appeared and... everything was lost.

Michelle5859

28, How much time has passed from the launch to HIS appearance? If you know of 3 cases, publish the list of "silent comrades from this forum"... either people haven't turned on their computers and don't see this topic, or they themselves don't know why ALL OF THIS ended (perhaps the aquariums were flushed, and no one wants to advertise their failures, especially if the person is a decorator or a trader).

Brent7831

HEY! SEA MEN - PROS, where are you!? Why are you silent? Don't you have anything to say!? Or add? :-))) And this DINO (Dinoflagellates - IT) will wait for YOU! :-)) Otherwise, I'm trying to stir up the topic!? (Create a storm in a glass!) :-)))

Christopher4108

About 7-8 months passed, and the aquarium was stable (the equipment is of good quality ... chiller ...). The aquariums were converted to freshwater! - cichlid tanks. Publish the list of "silent members from this forum" - we won't give up our own! I think they don't want to communicate? Is it just laziness!?

Pamela

28, well, there's nothing to say on the topic of 222 views and almost no one is interested. Have you tried organizing such a theme on the logo? Maybe there's a link?

Hunter1471

I read all those topics there! I'm interested in learning about my colleagues' experiences!

Michael5242

The same trouble appeared after the summer heat. The aquarium overheated. I rinsed the stones; don't kick too hard. I threw in some heteromorph and caulerpa, and it seemed like everything was going well, but then the surgeons ate the heteromorph and later the caulerpa too. Now we have the same issue. I suspect it's the water treatment; now I'm dealing with phosphates, all the while using osmosis water in the aquarium... I added anti-phosphate. We'll see. I hope it helps, as this buildup is incredibly annoying.

Jeffrey

Can we see a photo of the aquarium? After the summer heat, it's definitely not summer anymore! What condition is the aquarium in now? Can we see a photo!? :-))

Katie4842

I hope this is a joke? Otherwise, the meaning of this topic... those who know won't say, and those who don't know will find out, and the experience (costing 3000-5000-10000 USD) will be kept sacred from prying eyes and ears... Barmaley probably doesn't have such an aggressive form of dino... no "Armageddon in 5 days with toilet-izing the entire aquarium."

Tanner

There is another option! But you need to have another aquarium (and time) - move the corals, fish, and all the living creatures there (after rinsing them in water), turn off the light for the aquarium with Dinoflagellates (since they are photosynthetic), and keep it completely dark, and let everything decompose (I think in 21 days) and it will DECOMPOSE! ? :-)))

Jessica5016

Well, if you know everything, why are you asking? There's a 95% chance that there will be an outbreak of the same nuisance in your other aquarium. You need to seal it in the first three months, when there are no fish or corals.

Earl

I'm curious to know how to combat this in an active aquarium without restarting and removing corals and fish! There's a 95% chance that there will be an outbreak of the same nuisance in your other aquarium. It's interesting that when transferring corals, it doesn't progress in the other aquarium! Why? Does the microflora suppress dinoflagellates in the other working aquarium?

Alyssa6727

The topic starts to resemble something like "How to defeat cancer or AIDS?" - everyone knows everything and no one can do anything... and everyone just sits and prays that it doesn't happen to them! And all possible methods of relief are folk remedies... sometimes they help, sometimes they don't... in most cases, they don't help!

John

And in the end, the dino flash goes away on its own!

Cassandra7840

First of all, I already mentioned how I managed to overcome it. Almost all the creatures survived. Secondly, if you move one coral to a well-established reef, there might not be any outbreaks, but if you dump about thirty there... well, just give it a try.

Chelsea

My first M. Aquarium is a year and a half old, the second M.A. is three months old. There were no problems with dinoflagellates, and it seems that God has been merciful. However, about a year ago, on the red algae (Batriochladia), which are higher up in the water, a red coating like moss or dense webbing started to appear on the algae. I brushed it off with a brush, and I even broke off and threw away some branches, and within 3-4 days, it all went away and has been fine since then. So, sorry, I can't provide more information on this topic, but it's an important one.

Beth3383

The topic is interesting. However, I personally have nothing to add. Fortunately, I haven't encountered this. The maximum problems with algae are filamentous algae and cyanobacteria. But, as has already been mentioned, compared to dinoflagellates, these are not problems...

Lee425

Here is a person with a demonstrative riff—practically rebooted from the consequences of the dino.

Melanie

As I suspected, there was an abundance of phosphates. I asked a friend who measured it with some clever device, and it was 1.04. That was three weeks ago. Before that, this stuff would appear after turning on the light and completely cover the bottom within 10 minutes. I replaced the bulbs with new ones, increased the flow, and re-tuned it, plus added anti-phosphate Tropic Marin. Now there is none of that stuff on the substrate or rocks. Knock on wood, it helped.