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Charles5941
I see and read how beginners prepare to set up a marine aquarium. For some reason, everyone thinks that they can practice on a small tank and then move on to a larger one. My kind advice to you is to start with a large tank right away, because it's much harder to maintain parameters in a small aquarium than in a big one. And then there are all these restarts, renovations, purchasing new equipment, selling old equipment, etc. There are plenty of discussions about this on the forum.
Linda
That's for sure. Here are a couple of topics for you. Read them, think about them.
Amanda5586
Because a small marine setup requires significantly less money. For a large aquarium of 200 liters, the salary of a research employee wouldn't be enough to save up in a year! However, with a small marine setup, it’s easier to fix any mistakes that arise; they may occur more frequently, but it’s still cheaper. It's like with freshwater aquariums: I conducted all my experiments with fertilizers and various devices in a small 30-liter aquarium before applying them to a larger one! And by the way, it's easier to maintain a small freshwater aquarium than a large one, no matter what anyone says! Therefore, I think I will do the same with marine setups!
Stephen5857
I will definitely read these topics!!!! I took a quick glance and they seem to suit me!!!!
Martha
Soon we will be telling jokes by numbers, and we will be talking about the sea through links. Here are some of the best options:
Anthony7814
Consider LED lighting right away - if the jar takes off, you'll end up using it anyway... It's more impressive, more efficient, and more convenient!
Eric
I'm already considering either LED or compact combined PL lamps! In the neighboring thread, there is a small fixture, and I asked him for the electrical schematics and materials for the fixture. This is the topic.
Pamela
Oh, come on, NANO, 70 liters. What a trendy word... Just a small marine aquarium.
Russell8484
That's what I'm saying, launching 200 liters won't be much more expensive. At least there will be room to expand!
Veronica
Here is another option - the volume is smaller, but it deserves thorough examination.
Lisa
200 and 70 are completely different volumes!!
I wouldn't trade my 45 for 200 even with an extra payment...
The thing is, for me, a tank larger than 100 liters becomes a burden in terms of maintenance (for example, I have nowhere to dispose of water even from a small aquarium, and a large volume of osmosis is a problem, even with a system in place) + there is no such contact with all the inhabitants... Here I can appreciate each polyp individually, + plan placement and distribution a couple of steps ahead! And the miniature genre has its own special charm))
But stability - yes, it will undoubtedly be higher there.
Ross
2500? You won't even come close. 6 kg of live rock will already cost 1200. 10 dollars per liter, at least, and there's no way around it.
Katie5500
Are you serious?
Adrienne
I also forgot to mention that I don't need any devices or tests for determining water quality; I took half a liter of water to work in the morning and conducted all the tests!
Andrew9246
In my last post, I wanted to say that in a small volume, due to the speed of processes, you may not have time to react if something happens. Well, never mind, I won't clutter your topic anymore. Good luck with the launch.
Elijah7048
Thank you for the wish!!!
Kevin8087
So the SAMPS, return pump, lighting for the algae tank, pipes, fittings, and taps will also take a significant part of the budget... were they taken into account?
Matthew1280
I definitely thought about the dimensions when I was setting them. Well, let's consider that I'll redraw it!!! I was just in a hurry at work!!!
I hadn't really thought about the need to account for the entire system!!! I only calculated based on the useful volume of the aquarium, which is 80 liters when empty, and 60-70 liters when filled with sand and rocks.
The pump is located at the back of the aquarium!!!! I mentioned earlier that the return pump and flow in the aquarium will be about 300. There won't be any pipes or bends; from the return pump, there will be a soft corrugated hose into the aquarium. I haven't thought about the lighting, both main and for the plants, yet!!!
Craig7302
and this pulls money.
John3432
If I were you, I would use LED lighting. You will come to this anyway, and the money spent on fluorescent lamps will be wasted, plus you will need ballasts. One ballast costs 150 UAH, and it's not even the best one. So do the math... Yes, it's expensive, but later you will live and enjoy it without worrying about where to find such lamps.
Sheila1322
Can you provide more details about the wave system? Regarding the MH light, it probably heats the water a lot!
Jeffery
probably the only plus...
Kevin262
And now an interesting solution has become clear!!! And what is the box that is on top???
Joseph2576
It's just terrifying to look at, at the very least.
But there are hellish pipes and hoses on top! Beautiful!
Stefanie9771
If you have any questions (I can advise) - call me (I can call you back from my unlimited plan).
Alyssa6727
First of all, where have your posts with pictures gone???
Secondly, I wouldn't be so categorical about the existing options for systems in the aquarium.
Tanya
Another 5 kopecks from the same. If you are designing the aquarium yourself, I would start from the end, i.e., determine the type of light. If you are using lamps (and the Vemas EPRA with warm start for 2 lamps up to 39W is 160, and if you are using PL-L lamps, then contact the place where you got the skimmer, the same goes for the EPRA, and reflectors with textured aluminum are bent on this forum at reasonable prices), so if you are using lamps, then we draw the fixture based on their length, and from the fixture, we determine the size of the aquarium. Also, it's not an idle question about the availability of the chosen lamps in our country, not only the spectrum but also the dimensions, and the prospect of availability in the future. I have stumbled on these issues myself.
Sarah7284
Hello everyone again!!! I couldn't write for a long time because I was on a business trip!!!
I have another question!!! What should be the performance of the pump that drains water from the rear sump for my 70L volume? And also the circulation pump?
My aquarium size is suitable for PL lamps.
I have another question: What should be the spectrum and how many lamps should I install?? I'm specifically interested in compact combined PL lamps. I can fit 4 pieces of 24W each. The question is only about what spectrum to use and their quantity.
James5103
HURRAY! There will be one more sailor in Kharkiv. I bought such lamps from TUM for my aquarium. For my 42L tank, I took 2 of 24W (Actinic purple/Super Sun-Bio and Actinic Royal Blue/Sun-Bio). Visually, there is not enough blue. In the end, I plan to switch to LEDs and sell the lamps. P.S.: If you need cheatomorpha for starting, just write.
Joseph8592
Okay, thanks, I will write when I buy all the equipment and gather it together!!!!
Brian7092
So, regarding the LEDs. As I understand, TIM will no longer have supplies of PL lamps, and the remaining stock is being sold out.
Heather6148
Why has my topic become uninteresting to specialists??? In post #35, I asked questions and no one wants to respond???
Joseph1346
Thank you for the response, I was already upset that no one needed me!!!! Everything is on budget and planned!! Well, I already have a flow pump taken from this topic called - Wave Maker - VP101, I think it will be more than enough!!! And I plan to get the return pump from here. I think it's just right for my aquarium!!!!
Jeffrey496
Disappointment with a product from the Celestial Empire can come very quickly.
Leslie
Maybe this one is better?
Marie5348
I thought about your suggestion regarding the pump!!!! I will work within the remaining budget!!!!
Now I have another question about the lighting!!!! There is this thing, can it be installed??? Let's say I cut strips 40 cm long and stick them parallel to the lid with a total thickness of 30 cm. (It will be about 30 strips).
Wendy8540
bad idea
(money down the drain)
As for LED lighting, I strongly recommend considering CREE. (There aren't many alternatives in this segment; we also used Philips and Osram, but they are not well represented in our market - we'll have to order components from foreign stores.)
Marie5735
Why exactly is it money down the drain??? Can you explain it more constructively? Thank you in advance!!
Joseph2576
Oh, this is quite a thought-provoking response!!!
Keith7534
This LED lighting is really puzzling!!!! Especially the price!
I calculated the necessary equipment for the fixture with Pastuh1234:
1. Cool White XTEAWT-00-0000-000000G53 - 5 pcs (100)
2. Royal Blue XTEARY-00-0000-000000L04 - 7 pcs (168)
3. Blue XPEBLU-L1-0000-00Y01 - 5 pcs (115)
4. Driver LPCH-18-700 - 3 pcs (240)
5. Heat sink: width 122mm, height 38mm, base thickness 6mm -- 50cm (160)
Total will be 780.
Please let me know where I can save here?
Tasha
The price seems reasonable. Additionally, a controller will be needed to organize the sunrise, sunset, and moon, which will add about 400 grams. I replied about the controller in a private message.
Shawn
Better to add. The power supply seems to be missing.
Tracy4603
The LPCH-18-700 has an input of 220. I ordered some for myself as well.
Erin
Well, then it's settled.
Michelle13
Well, yes, you can control the channels only through drivers with PWM channels. The LPCH-18-700 driver operates from 220V and is not controllable, so what about sunrise-sunset? Therefore, you need drivers with PWM from 12...48V and a power supply. The technical specifications calculated 3 LPCH-18-700 drivers to control the white/blue and pianos separately through timers, but there will be no dimming, of course.
Patricia1746
You see, the sea is basically not a budget venture. No one here counts by 15...
Charles4157
15 here. There and we get savings in hundreds!!!!
Randall7906
I agree. BUT there is another side. Purchasing initially budget options and then upgrading turns out to be more expensive than buying something more worthwhile right away.
Laura4892
Next to the radiator, there is another profile where you hide it.
Michele
Is a cover necessary? Sometimes it causes more problems than benefits - sometimes it's just essential.
If you want to hide the LED equipment directly on the fixture, I have a small photo review in the topic where you can get some ideas (if needed, I can provide more details in private messages).
Jerry
Can I get a link to your topic? And can you explain in more detail in private messages? I need a lid in my case! There will be a lamp above the sump; I don't want a lot of wires from the aquarium, just one will be enough; When I have the money, I will install a controller in the lid; There will be a reflector for the LEDs in the lid; With the lid, there will be less evaporation; And I like lids. There are many more things to mention, but for now, this will be it.
Debbie3587
Good evening to all readers!!! I decided to liven up the topic a bit!!! The work on the aquarium is basically finished!!! I want to share my efforts.
A total of 2271 was spent on setting up the aquarium, not including the animals!!!
Anyway, here are a few photos, criticism is welcome!
Nancy
Finally posted it!) Great job!
Nicholas2252
J.K. (live rocks) took less than a kg, it turned out to be 100. The rest S.R.K. (dry reef rocks) - took Black Sea ones, weighing 5 kg, - at 15 per kg. - 75.
So the total is 2271 + 100 + 75 = 2446.