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Natalie

Javier5186

Why not? What obstacles? The truth is, I'm currently focused on dividing the total volume of the aquarium into a fish tank and a SPS tank - I have a couple of ideas but I'm still working them out. And what about the sand? It's a natural component of the Black Sea ecosystem - and it's alive - isn't the color white??? Well, you can sprinkle some argolite on top - although I find our sand more natural - not all parts of the reef have white sand - it's like what we have in the sea - we've swum there, we know.

Kristin

I used Black Sea sand for about 2 years, which was very beautiful; however, he sifted it to a uniform grain size before loading it into the display. Mostly, this sand consisted of crushed shell fragments from mussels. It performed excellently, but he eventually switched to aragonite sand. That's his choice, although the Black Sea sand is no worse at all.

Jasmine

Well, I don't know... People with equipment are struggling with the SPS guys. I'm afraid it won't work out for free. As for the white sand, it's not just white, but it also has a certain size and shape, and it's more familiar to my eye. In general, no need for nonsense!

Jessica6754

Is there already a system scheme for the lipizdochka? Like how to handle drains, overflows, returns, flows, and what filtration systems to use?

Ryan7682

What a practice... I got from the live rocks... 750 USD for 340 display - quite rich indeed - but 800-1000 is not realistic for me personally, and I don't see the point. For the balance of the tropical sea, I might take a couple of kilos "from there," but I'm not even sure, to be honest. My calculation for a new resilient system is based on a large mass-volume of live material (for free) - really live - actually from the sea into the glass and a smooth start with a lot of patience for maturation - not like I did, being an idiot, and after a month of intolerable mess, I introduced the first fish.

Joseph8842

They don't refuse... But we refused... Although not completely, and I repeat, we don't impose our terms of reference, everyone is like in Africa...

Nicole7122

I think it's worth paying attention to what corals they have and what we have, mainly. And just to the condition. I don't want to offend anyone in any way. It all depends on what corals are planned... If it's an SPS tank, then it's one thing, if it's an LPS tank, then it's something completely different... That's why I'm confident that systems with minimal equipment have every right to exist.

Patrick4439

Because I was thinking about something small, wide, and long, and I don't need to complicate my life with all this high stuff. No, I haven't changed my mind - but only as decorations and nothing more - if I can't create what I envision with J.K. (living stones), then I'll implement it as decor. Well, I didn't suggest you change the sand, did I? Right? You like white - and I like purple. I think so too, and I didn't say that without technology and equipment, a pump or stream is technology and equipment, and lighting too - where would we be without that?

Joseph2576

KR will definitely not be in my life - just like the person I bought it from. I don't like it... and the whole system of water acidification and the games with KH and the one who makes them I dislike even more.

Michelle1505

By the way, it's a very balanced decision considering the light output, and the illusion of depth and spatial perspective due to the 70 cm width is cool, really cool.

James8887

Is it really that much of a hassle with it? I'm thinking about getting one to keep my Ca and Mg levels in check... I'm tired of constantly adding and measuring... And when I'm not around, it's a complete disaster. What do you think about maintaining balance without it? Do you think live rocks and live rock fragments will be enough to support a struggling system with corals? What do you think I should do here?

Jacqueline5976

I don't think this is a big problem... I'll give an example of one topic, namely a large and very beautiful aquarium. Beginning: And continuation: I think you will also find it very interesting to read.

Sandra7004

San, by the time you figure out how to set up each specific KR, you won't just be exhausted—you might even start drinking and smoking. AF - AF - AF + baling + salt without salt for maintenance if AF power is insufficient - AF-AF not only conducts de-nitrification activities but also saturation of ME, and importantly, not in acidified CO2 water.

Cheryl

So that's what I actually think.

Cynthia6578

Well, regarding drinking and smoking, that's not a problem, but I don't want to fight. As for balling, I don't want to do it for now—I'm heavily tied to solutions... as for me... It's almost clear with AF, but not completely yet... I found a photo regarding the height and depth of the aquarium.

Matthew

This aquarium will already need diving equipment to place a coral on the bottom (just kidding).

Andrew419

Aha, and where did you find it, who is depicted in the photo, the sly Chinese man? An aquarium with nothing in it, or is it just an optical illusion? What's under the aquarium, in the basement, can we take a look?

Tami

Yes, probably the cleverest Thai. I posted the topic—there are detailed photos (it's clear without text) showing what happened and how it was launched... I related this photo to the topic of light and the depth of penetration. On this page, there is a close-up photo from A to Z. Message 5009.

Thomas5021

No, it's not a joke, practically. In the photo in the thread, you can see how they assembled it: with a mask and a tube.

Tricia7885

It will be interesting to observe the development of your second sea, especially if the aquarium is divided into a fish section and a reef section. Are you designing a refrigerator in your system?

Melissa

Yekhani babai flipped through who knows how many pages, but he didn't see any regeneration devices, except for an aquarium with live gray sea sand. Do they pump water directly from the sea or what?

Todd

In message 5009, there is a photo of the entire aquarium... As for how it was assembled, you need to start scrolling from the very beginning of the topic... Actually, the very beginning with the equipment, I also shared this link. In message 96, there is a diagram... Overall, the description of everything is very detailed in this topic.

Brandon4517

Thank you for the tip. Sorry, right, now I remember, this report has already been done, it just slipped my mind, behind the "curtain of events." Well, these guys manage to do things that are cooler than what we do, especially since they live, so to speak, just a few steps away from all this good stuff... We can't live like that.

Kathy

I would say it's different here... They live close to the sea-ocean and corals, and of course, prices for that are cheaper, but for everything else, prices are either the same or higher... The question is in the approach! Look, no matter how you turn it, the most beautiful aquariums have a decent amount of equipment, they take your breath away... When I saw this aquarium, I was drooling.

Lee425

The idea is actually not bad, but it will be at the expense of the dream "for the fish to swim far away." No, I never thought so - I am for the general conditioning of the entire living space rather than separate aquariums - it just seems more logical, cheaper, and simpler.

Antonio

There are enough examples with optimal setups of equipment, and it's not about the equipment, but about the brains of the person who built the aquarium and maintains it. Should I throw you some links where you'll be amazed by aquariums built with just a few pieces of equipment? Or do you think that a lot of equipment means a lot of pretty lights and displays?

Nancy758

No, I didn't say that. I'm currently only reasonably okay with the skimmer, UV, and theoretically the calcium reactor. If you can, it would be interesting to see SPS corals in a tank, for example... P.S. This is not a debate. I said it depends on what you're aiming for and what kind of aquarium... There are soft coral tanks that are incredibly beautiful! I'm just saying that achieving such purity and colors with coral growth is difficult without equipment.

Michelle9986

Sure, just go to the same reef center or the gray one and take a look. What does a skimmer or gray have to do with a SPS keeper? It's not a critical device for that - but for a mixed reef with Hipatus, for example - if you feed it well, it can really mess things up... And I really don't understand what I have to do with this personally?

Wendy8540

Well, as always, we started off well and ended up as usual. I actually brought up this aquarium as an example when we talked about light and whether it's difficult to illuminate 60, 70, or 80 cm... It seemed to me that you can take a lot of useful information from there regarding design; there are tons of sketches showing how everything will be done and why... P.S. As I understand it, you will still have a mixed reef with a hapatus, and possibly not just one.

Frank7213

I unequivocally state that there is a significant difference in the power of the chandelier and the light source needed to illuminate 50-60-70-80 cm - it's elementary, Watson. My task is to create a resilient, low-maintenance marine aquarium that my wife and I will like. Do not suggest Chinese two-meter aquariums with a budget of 20k. Now tell me that I was wrong:

Ryan2281

So that's why I asked you about three times what you plan to do in the aquarium. I'm interested in the process if you don't use equipment and minimize it... I can understand the soft corals in the sulfur and A.F., but when there are a lot of SPS, LPS, soft corals, and fish, I can't understand how just rocks and sand will manage, and A.F... Or if the focus is entirely on SPS...

Patricia1746

What if it’s like this: there are plenty of techniques, but the corals and the aquarium itself are subpar? We’ve seen this, and not just once. There’s also the approach that Sanya talks about—think along the lines of: rely on the technique, but don’t slack off yourself. That’s why various traces, food additives, and proper solutions for water quality, biology, and stability according to M.E. were invented. Even good lighting can turn out to be ineffective. It’s necessary to work hard in this direction.

David7773

I seem to have repeatedly outlined my plans - a fish tank and a reef - I definitely don't plan to have a pure SPS tank - I don't like them - it's personal - like with white sand. But I'm just thinking about whether to divide the total volume or not - I have a brilliant idea regarding this - but the width of the aquarium becomes one meter.

Anne4851

And why didn't you mention the refugium with macrophytes and a strong substrate? It is also planned...

Crystal

Do you remember the song from the USSR times: "... and the deer are lu-uu-uchshe"?

Kevin3579

This is not made up by Sanya - it's a historical fact, read the history of the Scythians. NOT in the number of shells - bacteria. Look for stones from the sea. ....................... Take the pen from Nox, I don't know alternative options. Sampa - half or more than half of the aquarium. There can never be too much sampa.

Shelby3182

In this case, I was talking about what shell limestone consists of. Limestone, which is predominantly made up of shells of marine animals and their fragments, is called shell limestone. I had a pen from Nox, but I know alternative systems. In terms of area, the sump will be at least the same as the aquarium - I will calculate the volume as I go.

Elizabeth1221

Here are 500 liters of sulfur only. The guy is happy that he gave up the skimmer - he says the sponges and worms are doing well and the color of the corals has become richer.

Tanya

Another aquarium without a skimmer led me to the brothers Eugene Plotkin and Don Plotkin.

Christopher3770

Sanya, "500 liters on sulfur only," is that song that we still haven't heard to this day. How many more years do we need to go to understand and hear at least something... It's interesting that energy-saving lamps are already being used on sulfur... It turns out people are already getting results with them; in short, we should have learned from them a long time ago instead of resting on our laurels...

Brandon4517

Well, I heard it. Although when gathering the sea, I brought up the topic - everyone just fell silent, so I ended up collecting crap for a lot of money that, along with the foam, messes up everything useful and necessary, and it cost a lot... The Belarusian brothers have gone further than us a long time ago - good job - now I'm tightly settled on their forum akva.by. The Belarusian brothers are so tough that they tested gas concrete as S.R.C. (dry reef stones) - well done!!!

Ryan1989

The Chinese tank industry has started producing shells for mini tanks - not cheap but effective. I found a link from our Belarusian brothers. I thought, why not throw some shells into that ditch?

Debra

The reef, as I understood, is completely "Algae" - an algae guy and a gray dot. I sat like a fool and couldn't grasp for half the video that some guy was planning to build something smart from a bucket. For the particularly patient, 13 minutes in, you'll understand how tough guys, the algae guys, build.

Jeffery7866

What do you think of a 2x1x0.55 aquarium divided into two volumes along the long side of 2 meters? That is, in one tank there are two aquariums - a fish tank and a coral tank. There is a central shaft and an overflow on each side. So, on one side, there are fish swimming, and on the other side, there is a mixed reef.

Ronald

Oh, what do you think about the option where you send a sketch of the room where you plan the reef and the dimensions, and then anyone who is willing can send you a project with a possible sketch for review or discussion?

Kevin262

He has an aquarium under maintenance. There is a skimmer, and he does a 20% water change every two weeks with natural ocean water. The algae eater didn't help much, so he started adding chemicals to combat phosphates. In the end, he managed to deal with the filamentous algae, but it's unclear what helped more.

Jesse

I don't know, imagine that someday you'll come back to the equipment, but already for your volume? What if, but there's no space... I think such aquarium glass will cost a pretty penny, maybe find out about acrylic too??? By the way, do you want everything to be glass? Or just the visible side? That's also a way to save...

Omar3497

What?! The cabinet will shrink by half? Or does the float take up a lot of space? At the start, I plan to buy some used one for the mini as a backup - then I'll give it to my neighbor. There's a lot of negativity - polishing forever. And the aquarium will just turn out to be too long, and the load isn't big - that's why I'm also thinking about a not very tall one. It turns out I can see through it (for now) - what are the other sides sewn with? San - I haven't heard about another option.

Crystal4879

I know that Leo Mironov has done it this way, as if the aquarium is built into the wall... roughly speaking, three walls are embedded in concrete and covered with something, while the viewing glass... again, it all depends on the architecture + I saw such a solution at the Reef Central... And they say acrylic is not so bad for tanks...

David

Sanya, it would be better if the fish tank is separate from the reef. The aquariums shouldn't depend on each other. The fish, of course, don't care, but the reef does. Think it over well. It's better to make a 3-meter reef and not complicate things for yourself. You can set up the fish tank somewhere else later, like in the hallway, for example.

Christopher

Without fish, they'll finish me off even faster.

Julie4738

You will make the fish tank like a tunnel in large marine aquariums... for example, in the bedroom. And no one said that you can't have fish in the reef...

Travis572

For example, I love Tridacna, but I never got to see Helmon because of that.

Rita

I also have a plan - you might think I'm an idiot. I will cultivate active bio-filtration - either with a large colony of mussels or oysters - they have plenty of food - I've tested it myself - well, if there are fish, that's one condition, and preferably a lot of scavengers like Hipatus.

Veronica

I don't think it's a priori... when I had it, I didn't touch either fan worms or aiptasia... not even the biggest ones...

Martin3206

I think a lottery is not appropriate here. My Lorik was the most peaceful creature, it didn't touch corals or crustaceans, and it fed only once a day on what grew in the aquarium.

Andrew419

With living beings, it's all a lottery. Look, I got a Labrador—when he was a puppy, everyone thought he was phlegmatic, but now he's like the one from "Marley and Me." One will trample on what he naturally shouldn't, while the other won't... I'm certainly a fan of this thing, but demolishing two floors of a house for a girl seems a bit unreasonable.

Larry

Brothers!!! Does anyone have a link to "SAMP next to or behind the aquarium at one level"?

Brian7092

Sanya, this is a general view of the aquarium, in the process of finishing the cladding, so don't pay attention to the unfinished parts. On the side is the refugium, at the same level as the aquarium, water flows into the refugium through an overflow, its suction side is visible to the left of the stream, and there is also the PC, which is currently functioning as an O2 reactor.

Johnny

The width is no longer coming out?

Sarah

Sanya, is this the final version? As far as I remember, we were talking about 3 meters. What do you think about placing the algae tank?

Jason

Yes, Sergey, the width is a problematic part - 40 cm. This includes the overhang over the bottom, in clean terms it's 30 cm, since the wall thickness is 40 cm. I think I can extend it to 50 cm - still need to add extra supports anyway. If I make it 50, it will probably be close to ideal. For now, I'm really worried about how to separate it for the algae scrubber? Brothers, is there nothing that can be glued in place of glass in aquariums? I only have one piece of glass for viewing.

Jeffrey

Calm down, Tolya!!! - we were talking about 1000-800 liters and 2-3 meters, and it will happen, but I'm not earning like I was a year ago, and this thing is uncertain in terms of how long it will take - and here I am, whoosh, almost 400 liters, all on alternative, and honestly, it will be a bomb in terms of kitchen interior, and I'm sitting next to my fish, I can even show them on Skype - just turned the shovel a bit and the camera picks it up.

Laura4892

It's hard to glue glass to something else - it will be unreliable. What is it about the glass that doesn't suit you? All other materials are more expensive. Change the connector to a wider one.

Matthew

Sanya, take another careful look at the photo in the link. There you will see that the display hangs over the rest of the structure by 7 cm, it was designed that way back when the shikhvaner was in that place... the aquarium has been working for 11 years on a 10mm glass base...

Joe

I thought I could save some money, but since I hadn't heard of any options other than concrete, I decided to ask again. P.S. The insulation doesn't matter here - everything will go over it - I don't want to stick it out of the window - that wouldn't be according to feng shui.

Richard2180

You'll have to if you want a bigger aquarium...

Larry

I still have the sold aquarium hanging over the cabinet - it's not about the design of the structure, but about the feng shui. But I'm leaning towards 50 cm for now or 40... not sure, in short.

Nicole263

My kitchen table is an extension of the countertop. You'll still need space for aquarium stuff, so you can try to kill two birds with one stone. And to make it more feng shui, consider a panoramic (curved) front glass; then the side walls can be made 30-40 cm.

Michelle5859

Damn, can you help with the samp on the side under the algae and the live rocks (J.K.) to come up with something to take up less length in the aquarium?

Dennis

Ah, it's just like a parallel option to the main one... then everything is great.

Angela6489

Yes - that's the idea!!! But ordering bending and I won't glue it myself... for now, the plan is not to waste money.

Antonio

So, Sanya, the performance of SAMP depends on the volume. If you want a high-performance SAMP, make it larger. Haven't you looked towards the refugium?

Kenneth7331

Well, make a trapezoid at a 45-degree angle. You can definitely glue it yourself.

Courtney4094

This is the foundation and refinement of my knowledge in AF, and from there, I can have ready material for a big ocean... slowly and steadily, but most importantly, thoughtfully - otherwise, I'll end up gathering a ton of junk again, I know myself - money will come, and I'll launch in a week.

Jessica5348

Nooo, that's definitely not it. It will look like an aquarium sticking out of the window - that will be the first impression.

John3335

What will you produce in Samp??? Cold milk like Matroskin? I'm only interested in the seaweed in Samp - I've already experienced all the bubbling wonder machines... the volume was said to be 390 liters.

Andrea6761

What if: if it's scary to arm the refugium from the side in terms of length overconsumption, climb up. Build a general structure above the display based on the principle: an algae scrubber the size of an AF, with a Durso drain on the aerator's flute, and it won't take up much space and will be beneficial...

Stephanie4990

Tolya, this window - a window to the garden - it also lets light into the kitchen - and I fought for its 50 cm height.

Erica

I will go by this kind of principle - approximately. I will just think through the algae tank - there will be one body with the aquarium together.

Gabrielle5053

So, to do this a couple of centimeters higher from the surface of the lighting device, the view of the Alabai in "the wild" won't be disturbed, or am I wrong?

Kayla7655

And my principle in exile, what is it like?

Amy5468

From the experience of narrow and long aquariums: I have an aquarium measuring 1300x300x400 (LxWxH). It is currently disassembled and is intended for a macrophyte tank. Despite its small physical volume, it appears large. The width of the aquarium is difficult to determine when looking through the front glass; it always seems larger than it is. By the way, if you make a kind of table for the aquarium with an overhang instead of a flat surface, you can actually fit a narrow but long sump underneath.

John3187

A narrow but long samp can be fitted in place of the removed battery.

Curtis

Well, not bad. You can make two, on both sides for symmetry. Then you can whip up a trapezoid; the side parts will be invisible anyway, so you can make their width smaller.

Kathleen

Well, that's what I'm talking about - how much to clear from 195 for this section? Seryoga )))) there is a table there now, but it's lower than the countertop - a large oak oval one - but I definitely won't put the sink on it =)))))

Barbara8192

I also don't plan to remove the radiator - I know how to separate its heat flow from the aquarium - I can slightly restrict it, but not remove it completely - I'm sitting there and warming myself by it ))))))) I don't have and won't have underfloor heating - I'm against it.

Joyce

I have 14. It can be done with 12. The minimum is 10.

Collin

Sanya, the main problem is with the lighting. For algae to grow well, good light is needed (I have 120 watts, but that might be a bit much). It's difficult to illuminate a small area, although in your case there will be side lighting as well. From the lighting perspective, I would make two compartments of 10 cm each. Then we place the PLS on top, and the side lighting will cover the 10 cm.

Bryan1851

Um... It seems like you wanted to save some money, but it turns out you'll spend twice as much and waste a lot of time... +1 aquarium +1 light + stones + living creatures + some repairs in the kitchen, etc... I had an aquarium that was 40 cm wide - it's very inconvenient... And blocking half the window is also not good feng shui... Why do you need it? If you have this table as a workspace, then just put a Nemo there, something like that, and relax. If you’re thinking about a 3-meter aquarium, then work towards that, and if it’s not enough, you can always do something in the window later... That way, you'll save money and not waste time...

Kristin

It will also be nice for us to see the aquarium that is 3 meters long.

Stacey4437

I have a 25W energy-saving bulb under a halogen light in a splash-proof fixture - it was blowing nicely on the heteromorph - I got tired of thinning it out - the plastic grew to 25 cm - there was sand and stones at the bottom.

Zoe7451

Well, I'm saying that maybe I have a bit too much, since I also have a sample of 200 liters.

Thomas

Either approve or not - even with an aquarium width of 40 cm - I will save 15 cm - 40x15=600 sq. cm - yes, I will illuminate it with a powerful lamp - a thickness of 25 cm will definitely be fine - seems like it's okay for 390 liters?! The bottom will have the old scheme - live rocks. But now I am plagued by vague doubts - why do I need an overflow in this design - a grid and over the top? To collect film? This problem has long been solved by directing the flow upwards and creating ripples on the surface!!! Just a hole with a grid slightly below the water surface - but no waterfalls or overflows???!!!! Please critique.

Kimberly2102

And all 200 in Khetamorph?

Erin

Well, the algae collector is smaller, but there are a couple of buckets of heteromorphs there.

Rachael

We will have to wait a long time - while we enjoy 2 meters and the alternative system.

Sara

When it is overgrown, or rather when it is compacted and poorly aerated, I noticed the appearance of all sorts of muck - cyanobacteria, for example, it happened once - no matter how unpleasant... and immediately recalled the words of the same Stepanov - by periodically thinning the algae, we reduce nitrogen... p. 33

Patricia

Sanya, the main expenses are ЖК (living stones). The Black Sea ЖК (living stones) have been used for a long time and quite well, and you have the sea nearby.

David953

And what did I write in the first post?! There is also live sand there. So it's not a problem for me to collect J.K. (live stones) that I need.

Martha

I don't know, at my dacha it's like that, the pump is directed upwards and the little backpack with the waterfall doesn't remove the film...

Courtney

San, what's the point? I probably don't understand something...

Julie

I don't understand what's going on or if someone is confused due to the heat - my last post is missing, but Sanya quoted it?! Did I offend someone again or break the forum rules? Or what? I repeat the question - instead of making a transfer, just use the openings to balance the transition to an equal-level compartment in the form of an algae tank and forget about the film - it breaks anyway by directing the stream upwards and creating ripples on the surface - but it guarantees complete silence of the device.

Joseph1346

Sanya, everything is unchanged, no one has cleaned up the posts in this thread at all.

Hunter1471

It is certainly possible to balance the transition this way; it's just that my refugium was originally designed separately from the display, and I installed it much later than the display itself, which is why I had to set up the overflow. You advocate for a different solution, but this solution is also absolutely correct.

Anthony

Offtopic, it's probably hot in Odessa, your post number 104.

Michelle9986

Lesha, I'm sorry - I'm a jerk here - I overlooked where Sanya quoted me - I couldn't find the post even after reviewing three pages. It was really around +40 today, and Seryoga came from Sumy to pick up the remnants of the aquarium - he ran around and now his back won't straighten - why is everything so heavy. Tolya, so I'm not doing the overflow after all - among freshwater fish, this is proudly called "bio-cell," so it's also familiar to us - how else to call an algae eater if not a bio-cell.

Alicia5489

I request constructive criticism of this type of overflow - without a pipe and grid. Do not mention the film on the surface. The aquarium is long and narrow - 195x50x45 - this is the sump on the side combined with the entire aquarium.

John

Sanya, where the algae will be, there will also be coral rubble; they will be on it. What layer of rubble do you think to lay in the compartment?

David953

Here’s a good thought for the catch - it will be necessary to glue a rib 10 cm high to the bottom - and to fill it with rubble - the rib is meant to prevent anything from getting into the compartment with the pump. Or should we not glue the rib and just use larger stones?

Jessica

It is necessary to install a plate with half-inch holes instead of a rib where the water will exit from the bio compartment to the pump compartment. This will allow for free passage of water while preventing debris from entering the pump compartment. Debris can be placed in both large and smaller sizes; I used pieces ranging from 3x5 to 5x7 cm. There are also fragments as small as 2 cm.

Jennifer

With a water level difference of 2-3 cm, there is absolutely no noise from the water. In the display aquarium, the film will be removed by the stream, but what about the algae tank? It is better to overflow water over the partition from the top with a difference of 2 cm.

Alyssa1438

There is a constant and intense flow - I have never seen a film in a simple sump in an algae tank. What’s better? I just can’t understand what’s better? Besides the film, I don’t see the need to complicate such an overflow with a level-equal system - that is, a side sump.

Chelsea

It can be done this way too - it's not essential.

James5103

Although, if you make a 4 cm gap for water to exit the biochamber into the pump compartment, you can place a piece that won't fit into the pump compartment by its dimensions. The thing is, if there is a rib or some other obstacle at the exit, detritus may accumulate over time in that spot, which is not very good. What do you think, Sanya?

Jasmine

I am not defending any particular idea of mine - I just wonder if someone could point out a specific advantage of classical overflow over this???? Then I won't regret what I've done later.

Joshua8425

Well, if the waterfall and the sound of water are "mesmerizing," and it pulls the film into the sump... Although it can be done in a way that it works quietly. For example, I don't have any film, just like there isn't that kind of overflow; it's simply eaten away by the bubbles from the air filter, which, by the way, are its worst enemies. Where there are waves and bubbles on the surface, the film has no chance of staying on the surface of the water for long.

Cassandra1840

I'm not captivated by this Tolya. I've played enough with the level in the mine - I still couldn't achieve consistency - even though everything was connected through a stabilizer - a very good stabilizer - an expensive stabilizer. The fight with J.K. (living stones) didn't inspire me to throw myself into it. So, we accept this overflow!!!

Ashley5975

Sanya, how are you going to deal with the noise of the water that will be flowing out of the AF? It will definitely gurgle a bit.

Russell8484

I have three options in my head, but I can't figure them out yet - the pressure isn't too overwhelming - and the inadequacy of the classic overflow in my case - when the sump is at the bottom - it just can't be done without it - and for me, it will just be a waterfall plus to the AF - but it won't be of any use - only the grid gets overgrown and the water level creeps up. Actually, I will also cover the holes with round grates - they will need to be cleaned too.

Kenneth7210

San, what do you actually plan to do in this aquarium?

Crystal

Offtopic, what is the diameter of your drain? How many taps are on the drain? And what pump is used for the return? Are there taps on the return?

Brandon9634

For now, I plan to keep a moderate number of fish of a certain type for me, and softness - I'll let a couple of hard ones go and see what happens.

Melissa

Off-topic. Who is this question for?

Richard2180

Why? Why spread yourself thin on other aquariums when you have a magnificent project?

Kevin8087

Offtopic to Alexey

Amy9618

So it has to be... I've said why multiple times - what more do you want???

Mark9853

I have been following your first topic about the launch very closely, and as a beginner, I have learned a lot. Your writing style (correctly placing emphasis) is unmatched! You have touched on an important topic again, and what is very important is that you are trying to bring it to life. I am also going to launch 2 aquariums at a minimum without a sump (though with a skimmer) of 650 liters and 1350 liters, and I am happy to minimize the system from all those hissing bubbling machines. I don't create my own topics—questions periodically arise in your topic, and professionals provide good answers. I wish you luck and health for your future aquarium. You will definitely succeed.

Emily3506

Thank you, brother!!! Do you know what they say about us? "Clinical idiots should stick together." But it's people like us who drive progress. I don't deny the skimmer at all - if I can get started before the cold sets in, I'll buy a minimum of 100 liters until the AF matures and the dead weight is gone. And according to my now deep convictions - if you do use a skimmer, it should be at 25% of the system volume - the rest should be neutralized by natural processes.

Angela

Off-topic, Sanya, but shouldn't someone be at the top of this list of "clinical idiots"? Put me first, especially since so many people have already been "misled" by these so-called "alternatives"....

Joseph2576

Offtopic You are the Banner Bearer for me in our group Now I will announce some heresy - I'm gluing an aquarium 1950x50x40 - two edges and a brace = 8 mm glass, bottom = 10 mm.

Catherine

Unfortunately, there is no size 8 in stock - everything will be from size 10.

Susan9583

Yes, respect and admiration for Anatoly. Six months ago, I created a topic, and he guided me in the right direction. He explained that with a reasonable approach to launching and maintaining an aquarium, it is possible to have it without significant hassle and expenses on various gadgets. Before that, I was held back by the thought that everything in this field was very complicated. Of course, I will need to learn and learn again (thankfully, there are plenty of experienced people) and do everything wisely, smoothly, and without sudden movements. By the way, I will be making a planted tank 3000x250x200 on top of the aquarium (3 meters - 150 liters of acrylic glass) and using gravity flow into the tank.

Alyssa6727

It will be stronger.)))

Sarah7284

Wow!!!! Great idea!!!! Start the topic - I've been thinking about it a bit + combine it with a powerful AF - but I'm struggling with the lighting - start the topic and let's brainstorm together and come up with something. I'm sure Tolya will support us and throw in some suggestions.

Andrea8397

From ten it's just right, after all the sizes are solid... So don't be upset, everything is very good. Well, for the technical section, of course, a different glass will do, I think that's not a problem for you.

Jacob7201

A screed is not needed from the 10 - see pages 12-13 of tables 1-2-3, and a couple of other enemy software confirm this.

Bonnie

Yes, this will be a very serious macroalgae setup, and that's great. The best option, to avoid any incidents, is to place it on a special stand, definitely not on the aquarium. Although I have my AFO on the edge of the aquarium, that was planned from the very beginning, which is why the edge was reinforced twice. Essentially, this long and powerful device rests on a 20-gallon tank.

Bethany

Yes, we also have enthusiasts of marine aquaristics on our forum who have set up aquariums without braces and even without ribs, and I agree with them, it's not necessary, but here, something always reminds me of "The Twelve Chairs," where a guy tortured by narzan says: YOU CAN!!! But money upfront! So it's the same here. You can, but it's still better to install...

Kevin8087

Thank you! I will ask for the author's permission here and probably create my own topic. I have a 15-gallon tank and 6 ties for 3 meters + ribs - will it hold if I place a plant filter along the entire length? I just want it above the aquarium and not behind on the wall (in case it leaks, and it's easier to maintain)? And one more question... I know this has been discussed many times, but I have a new Fluval FX5 that is sitting idle - should I throw out all the sponges and fill it with large coral gravel 1-2 cm or rubble, and place the water intake a couple of centimeters from the surface (if it leaks, it will pump out a little) or should I just get rid of it too... minimalism is minimalism. Thank you!

Kayla7655

It should hold up; the stress is mainly on the edge of the 15mm glass. Nevertheless, see for yourself, I would still place it on a shelf. As for the Fluval, whether it will leak or not, I wouldn't worry about it and would sell it to a freshwater aquarium enthusiast.

Randy

Thank you! I will do that with the Fluval.

Susan1358

It will hold up - you can even do a lezginka on top of it - it's all about how I assembled the cabinet from furniture board (beech) - and how everyone told me that no one does it this way except for Americans and that it would fall apart in three days - however, I didn't sell the cabinet and it didn't fall apart in 1.5 years and showed no signs of it, and only when I got off it - I rode on it - painted the ceilings.

Nicole

I read in your thread that you want to include mussels in the filtration system... I searched online and indeed found excellent filters for the sea and ocean, but I couldn't find a proper answer regarding aquariums. What do the experts think... will they survive if not one or two, but around 1-2 kg? What should they be fed? Or is this a utopia in an aquarium? It would be great to put them in a planted tank under the plants—let them filter.

Cassandra1840

Great question! I have an idea to include not only Midis in the samp but also Oysters under Khetamorph.

Amy5070

P.S. I released the oysters at the start when the thread was raging - the upper shells of the oysters were covered like grass on a lawn, and the sand around them was always perfectly clean.

Nicole2404

Sanya, if the oysters have shown an example of survival, then we probably need to work with them. Black Sea mussels usually don't live long in a tropical reef aquarium, apparently due to the high salinity for this species.

Amanda5586

I found interesting information about Media and Oysters.

Rebecca

Gradual salting is undoubtedly better than immediately at 35 per mille. Nevertheless, experiments with Black Sea fauna without prior adaptation have also shown positive results, which can be confirmed by several of our Zaporizhzhia sailors who are currently successfully keeping Black Sea animals in their marine aquariums. However, I am fully in favor of the practice of gradual adaptation; it is a sensible approach. This is because no one can be insured against unexpected losses during such a process.

Sherri1320

Good day. When did you buy the oysters at METRO - were they sitting there in salty water? For some reason, I thought they put them all in fresh water. Do they really salt the water?

Holly

It's not that salty... I dipped my finger in on purpose and licked the freshwater - they just cool it down. You should take oysters that are closed - it's a sign that they're still alive - when they die, the muscle that controls the shells relaxes and the shell opens. So I'm saying - can you imagine the resilience potential of oysters??? By the time they are caught, transported, and end up in the Metro, they are bouncing around for months... I'm telling you - it's amazing!!!

Stacy6866

It takes about 50 days for adaptation if after 3 days... it seems to be normal - it should work out. However, I need to find out where the oysters are from - maybe adaptation isn't necessary.

Monica

Excerpt from the forum (author Lev Mironov): I tried. I bought oysters at the supermarket, and after placing them in the aquarium, they opened up and lived. But only for a relatively short time. About two months. They die due to two factors. 1. Temperature. They need cold water, not 25 degrees or higher. 2. Lack of sufficient food. They are filter feeders that require plankton in large quantities.

Laura3615

Regarding the skimmer, I agree... it's probably the biggest oyster in the system (and expensive). As for the adaptation, I calculated it to be about 50 days if I'm translating the Black Sea (Chornomorsky) to the reef... if I didn't mess it up, of course.

Judy

Offtopic Revolution in marine aquaristics. Throw away all skimmers and start with salt.

Monica

Well, maybe I exaggerated with 50 degrees - I just said that off the cuff - everywhere it mentions a gradual salting of 1-1.5 degrees per day. But I actually have no rush - I will definitely start in about two months before the first living creatures.

Jill9137

What does this have to do with it??? Or are you not aware of systems without skimmers???

Marie5735

Offtopic Yes, I'm aware, but is this course suitable for everyone? Many people have such systems packed with so much that MIG takes a break, but there's no harmony.

Adrienne

So we, Lesha, are talking about a specific alternative system and some interesting related questions - I immediately stated that I am not going to "expose" or "accuse" anyone, and we gathered here a couple of like-minded people to discuss the bright future - which may or may not happen - but we will see it all through my example - it's interesting, isn't it?

Lynn4242

and I will support the experience - the first salting will be in a week.

Jennifer5371

I agree. Off-topic. The main thing is that they understand it correctly and take what is needed and necessary, not like it was with me, explaining to one person for a month and a half what salt is, what trace elements to use, and what water to use, explaining it every day for an hour, he understood, yes. Two months later, he calls, and to my surprise, I find out he’s using salt from the pharmacy, water from a spring, and trace elements almost from the store, our garden. He thought (with two higher education degrees in medicine) and decided on his own.

Maria

Off-topic This is a clinical case for Lesha. I often encounter similar situations regarding other issues - I explain, I get frustrated - and for free - out of love for the craft and the idea - and in the end, the person does everything wrong and, importantly, everything in reverse - that's why I stopped doing it - until I really feel that the person is interested and, most importantly, understands. Most often, it's easy to identify superficial why-askers - they ask a bunch of questions and, without listening to the answer to the first one, ask the second and third.

Timothy

It's a bit strange... Yesterday I replaced all the drain pipes (removed the sewer and installed normal Nibco 1" pipes). The Durso worked immediately; I just had to adjust the air intake valve a little. There are no stabilizers (although I plan to install a 7 kW unit for the whole apartment in the fall, as sometimes the voltage drops so much that the skimmer gurgles and the electronic ballasts shut off), but the level is stable. However, I have a pocket, not a shaft. Maybe it's more stable?

Scott8536

The final version of the aquarium has been sent for production - that is, Alik from Aqualife (Odessa) is gluing it - after all, even with their work, it turns out cheaper than if I were to learn and struggle myself. And I still planned a proper overflow through a comb - I have determined its priority over just holes for water intake. The rest of the structure remains unchanged.

John828

Besides the fittings, we also need the pipes. Well, we can't send them from Odessa, can we? I just bought them recently. And your fittings are just what I needed. Off-topic. We still don't have these pipes at Epicenter; I found them by chance in a water filter store.

Jacqueline6670

Here is the final version of the sample on the side.

Kristin

I would make the feed channel of minimal width, just enough for the pump to fit.

Luis3725

This compartment is 15x20 cm.

Emily

That's why I preferred the classic overflow: - after all, it's a constant level in the display - in case something happens, the level in the sump will drop; - the grates that would look like "holes" there would have a diameter of 42 mm. Such a crown would have to be purchased, and they are not cheap; - with the grate, if it gets clogged with plant leaves or something else, there is a high chance of overflowing into the sump - the level in the display will only rise a couple of millimeters; - there is never too much aeration; Well, I've laid out my thoughts.

Denise

Sanya, I would do it this way, and there are many reasons for this; the algae collector won't pump out the water in case of anything, and the detritus will be retained.

Elizabeth1221

Lesha, do you mean the place where the red one is, we should glue another bulkhead there??? I’ve been thinking a lot about it - it seems we will go that way.

Ryan1989

I remembered what I was doubting about this partition... Lesh - leaving the pump dry is very bad - the heteromorph will just drop down with the level and won't dry out. So, the detritus, yes-aaa, I had it everywhere in the first reef, including on the pump.

Andrew7823

Yes, another partition will hold back detritus and various organisms, and also, in any case, the algae will always be in the water. The partition is made to a height of about 3-4 cm below the main water level.

Jacob7201

Lesha - it's accepted - Thank you!!! Just not 3-4 cm from the main level - but about 20 cm from the bottom I'll tear it off - then the volume of the pressurization chamber will be large and all the stuff won't overflow.

Jeffrey6189

I was at METRO today - the oysters are kept in salty water (and I licked one... it's true what they say, a bad example is contagious) and I asked again - they said that lobsters and oysters (from France) are kept in special water with sea salt. They cost 34 each, the size of a palm.

Joseph1346

Congratulations on the start of the work to establish a new marine aquarium, and I wish you success in finding new solutions.

John3142

Where did I dip my palette? I swear it was fresh water - but the fact is they lived with me for a long and tedious time.

Susan

I think that in your METRO, like in the country, there is just a human factor and chaos... they threw it into the mess and whatever... the oysters don't complain.

Marie5735

I'm going to a new reef for oysters - I'll stick my finger in again, they get taken very quickly here - especially by the Chinese, who are in Odessa like in Beijing.

Sara

If anyone is flying to Turkey for vacation, order some Mediterranean mussels. They can be found on the floating piers. I had a few living for about six months. There are also plenty of snails under the stones. They lived well too; one almost made it to two years.

Katie4842

Turkey - Bosporus-Dardanelles - the biocenosis is similar to ours - just a bit more salt there - so it doesn't make sense - our mussels are "the same" - as a former sailor I know - in the sense of a sailor-sailor - a guy who put on a uniform at 14 years old )))))

John828

They are stalling me with the gluing of my glass aquarium... for another 8-9 days... while we will be exploring the local coastline for live rocks.

Christopher8654

I picked up the glass aquarium - it's part of a large project.

Hunter1471

Sanya, I see you have plenty of aquarists in your house.

Larry9400

Two more did not make it into the frame, and there are two more outside.

Kellie

Here is the design of the overflow-sump: a larger compartment for large biofilter media (live rocks) + Hetamorva + a very powerful LED lighting - a smaller compartment for pumps.

Sarah5423

That's how I imagined her.

Jacqueline5976

She thought it would be smaller, but my dream "the fish swims long and to its full length" seems to come true. And it's strange - this one is somehow much heavier than the previous one, even though they are almost the same in volume, and the first one has a reinforced bottom, while this one does not.

Kevin262

Oh, this is not a pleasant task - peeling off silicone left by careless can sticklers - even the ginger cat has a "judging look" in the last photo of post 200 (who does it like that?).

Robert

The ribs were just glued yesterday - I came to pick them up and they are still working on it - I said I won't wait - load it up - I'll scrape it myself - there’s just one rib to touch up and a couple of joints - that’s what I’m going to do now.

Phyllis

Friends! It is necessary to darken part of the algae tank from the main volume - there is dark acrylic - how to attach it to the glass - with the same silicone?

Mark7376

I forgot to mention the glass aquarium - it cost me 2130.00. 195x40x51 10 mm. Akvalife-Odessa-Misha - naturally, Alik glued it - this time I like the aquarium more in terms of execution - all edges are polished - everything is precise and even, and you won't get hurt.

Alyssa1438

Why actually glue it? I inserted a piece of acrylic cut to size, leaned it against the glass, and the substrates will hold it in place with their mass; it won't fall, there's nowhere for it to go... There will be enough glue as it is.

Alicia5489

Sanya, I wouldn't use acrylic inside the aquarium and wouldn't glue anything at all; maybe I misunderstood something. In 3-4 months, everything will be overgrown with Carolina, and it will be cooler and more useful than any acrylic.

Heather6148

Alek, look at the aquarium - on the left there will be a plant tank - it’s on the side and there will be a very powerful LED shining there - and while it’s growing, it will shine 24 hours a day into the display - that’s what I want to dim.

Marie5735

Or should we really not put anything there and wait for it to grow back on its own? I'm also not very "for" any kind of inserts. But it will grow back unsightly... or will it still grow back unsightly between the acrylic and the glass?

Heather2018

The display side won't look nice - there won't be a solid background. Or should we cover that side completely with stone - why bother?

Andrea6761

This is probably the best idea.

Cynthia

I think so too. It feels more natural that way.