• Aquarium without braces and ribs

  • Andrea8397

There is an aquarium made of 10mm glass, without ribs and braces. 60*75*50 How confident can one be in the strength of the structure if a Delta MSE 600 foam separator is hung on the back wall? (The water capacity there is about 7-8 liters). Please share your opinion, and even better, if someone has had a similar situation - practical recommendations. Thank you. For reference, here is a picture:

Christine

If you don't fill it completely, it's not a big deal. I personally don't like reinforcements, so you can stick the edges around the perimeter, not with the edge against the wall, but flat. That is, if the glass is 10mm, then plus the edge will make it 20mm in total (a strip 30-40mm wide will be enough), and that's already something, and it doesn't interfere like a standard reinforcement or a glued edge.

Jill1815

Yes, there will be a 3-4 cm gap from the top for the water.

Jessica5016

I don't think it's a big deal; with a width of 60 cm, the deflections are minimal. Pour some water and see how it bends.

Elizabeth882

There are still a day or two to either do something or not bother if the margin of safety is sufficient. The aquas are not at my place, so I can't check for now, and when they arrive, I'll need to deal with the restart.

Michelle104

I have 65x50x50 (height) 10 mm without ribs and stiffeners, almost no deflection, the shaft. For yours and your nuances, I would glue it from 12 mm or at least add ribs/flanges to this one. But I play it safe, otherwise, who knows.

Craig7302

It's impossible from the back (SAMP), and it looks bad from the front. The only option left is to add ribs on the left and right? Off-topic: Damn, AiRif glued 800 liters from 15 and they don't seem to worry. Although they also have a shaft and nothing hangs on the aquarium...

Spencer7805

What is the height, 75 or 50?

John3142

60d*75w*50h

Jason5071

Don't worry, the safety margin is about 3.5. I'm going to install 70x55x55 without ties and ribs made of 10 over the weekend.

Alyssa1438

I currently have stones forming in a 6-gallon aquarium with a height of 45 cm, and the water level is at 43 cm... Everything is still.

Robert1845

If there are no deflections, then you can sleep peacefully for 3 years, but the question remains what the vibration will be like and how it will be transmitted. No one gives a warranty on a silicone seam for more than 3 years. P.S. This is ideally if the glass is free of defects and no force majeure is anticipated.

Tricia7885

There will be a Deltec mce600, a Vortex 10, and a return pump up to 1200 l/h. Knowing myself, 3 years is enough. I would manage to last 2 and not come up with something else.

Troy8808

Given that your width is 75 cm, it would be convenient to make the ribs according to the width, but that's up to you...

Ryan7682

So I'll play it safe... I'll give ribs on the left and right to sleep better.

Debra6575

If it wasn't made by Uncle Vasya the neighbor (for a bottle), but produced by a company with a reputation for at least 5 years, feel free to pour it in; no need for spacers - they will only get in the way. The thickness of the glass is certainly an important parameter, but not the main one; without experience in gluing, even 15 mm glass can break.

Katie3017

And what about this option: 90d*45w*60h (I know that "w" and "h" are not quite standard) (glass 10mm - pickerton) I plan to fill it to 55cm. The foam will hang on the long wall, in the corner. There is one MG, in the center. The flow (vibration) - Vortec 10, and Deltec mce 600. Is there a need for ribs and ties?

Marie5348

10mm for a length of 90cm, even when filled to 55cm without braces - it's risky. In one of the magazines "Aquaculture" from the second half of the 80s (I can't recall the exact issue), there were detailed calculations for aquariums without braces and reinforcements - the thickness of the glass for a certain height, length, and width of the aquarium. If possible, try to find it.

Kristen1161

I will look for it, but we need to make a decision now. For now, I said to make the edges on the left and right.

Michelle13

Width of 45 cm? Why? It's definitely not needed here... 60 cm without ribs, for sure. If anything, it should be 90 cm.

Nicole7268

+100. 10mm at this width will hold up like that. It's a bit sketchy, especially with that level of fill.

Jennifer9100

The skimmer will create tension since it is located on the back wall, which is 90 cm. That's why I thought to secure it and make ribs for depth. They just called and said there is no such (transparent) glass to make the ribs. So the question is - should I agree to such an aquarium or not? I'm worried not so much about the length of 90 cm, but about the skimmer at that length...

Rachael

Will you make it to order? If yes, then don't mess around... just make it, for example, 60x60x55 and sleep peacefully... The weight of the skimmer will push down, so don't worry.

Brandy

And how is that???

Zachary

Pickerton or Pinkerton..... That's it, I'll take a normal-sized aquas. I won't take any risks.

Michael3221

Yarik, decide on the sizes and make the aquarium so that it won't bulge or tear! About the foam - that's nothing, you're not the first one to have it hanging on the glass. For a 90cm length, I would put in braces; on a 90x40x40 aquarium made of 8mm, I had both braces and ties. ... Is your pinkerton a light diffuser? Did you plan to make braces out of it?

Rebecca1419

Yes, so that the regular glass ribs don't "green" against this. But, that's it.

Jason9385

I read 2 pages and still didn't understand anything, sometimes one size, sometimes another. Usually, the one who manufactures should provide guarantees and, moreover, calculate the strength coefficient (you said that some guys from the forum are experts and will do everything well). Order them an aquarium with a strength coefficient of 3.4 (that's almost a tank), but usually 2.8 is sufficient (European standard).

Lauren

Off-topic. I will write about these guys separately in their thread - they spent two months on the stand and the aquarium, and as a result, NOTHING HAPPENED. Not even a glass cutter was picked up by anyone. So I had to urgently look for similar volumes and try to modify them.

Alyssa1438

What type of glass can be used for a size of 45x30x30 (h) if there are no braces and ribs?

Rachael

A 10 can be used quite well, and an 8 will be enough; I have a 6 that measures 50x30x35, but with ribs.

Andrea9320

Fives will be enough, with a good safety margin for sixes. Making it thicker is just nonsense...

Veronica

I have a 6-gallon cichlid tank, 80x40x55. With braces and ribs, I think 6 should be enough at a height of 30, maybe 8, but definitely not 10.

Heather2018

I have 60*30*27 from 6.

Laura7633

Yesterday, I set up an aquarium without braces, measuring 120x50x50 with a glass thickness of 12mm. I'm concerned about the glass gap in the middle of the aquarium, which is 2.5-3mm. Should I be worried?

Amy

Damn, I ordered a 120x60x60 made of 10mm glass without a brace, and now I feel a bit uneasy... should I order more before it's too late?

Joseph1346

I wouldn't take the risk. Maybe my mistake was in the incorrect placement of the substrate? I trimmed it and only laid it under the bottom glass; it doesn't cover the side panels.

Christopher1774

At this height, a 12mm glass should practically have no deflection even without braces. Such aquariums are usually made from 8mm glass. It will stand without a brace (if there are stiffening ribs), but it's better to order a brace in the middle of 7-10 cm and sleep completely peacefully...

Emily

What to do? 3mm. (1.5mm for each glass) is it critical? It was done by the same person. My brother has a 120x60x60 aquarium made of 10mm glass and the discrepancy is 1mm (0.5 for each). Maybe the substrate affects it, but I don't want to believe that. The aquarium dried for a week after gluing.

Anthony7814

The underlay has nothing to do with it. Are there any stiffeners?

Meghan

There are no ribs or ties.

Rachel

I understand that the person who glued it is not just some random guy. If he gave you a warranty for the aquarium, then don't worry about it.

David7773

According to the photo, there are indeed stiffeners (at the top along the long sides), or am I mistaken? Volume, dimensions? It looks like an aquarium from the company "Priroda" (I have a 450L one, but it only has 2 stiffeners at the top). In the profile, it says 300L - is that it? The company is well-known, everything is well thought out there. So if it is, there's no need to worry.

Cassandra1840

If I may chime in. I plan to assemble an aquarium measuring 95d-45w-55h without braces or supports. What glass should I use?

Emily3506

The dimensions are here. There are no ribs, you must have imagined it... the photo is not the best. The glass was made for me here, but it's very far from you, and it's definitely not an aquarium from "Priroda" production. The seam processing on such machines is very precise and looks like jewelry work. I'm as happy as a clam; the aquarium looks very good, and the water is crystal clear.

Justin

Also interesting! I just think 90-50-55 (45 is a bit too little for the slope and strumbums).