Questions about balling :)

Chad9037

I feel that I will soon need a dosing system, and since the tanks are prepared in the summer... I don't want to buy a ready-made controller as it will be too expensive, so I will make it myself. I have already purchased the peristaltic pumps (they are on the way). However, a number of questions arise: 1. How many dosing channels are needed? 4? 8? 2. How many times a day should the dosing system be activated? 1? 12? 3. Can all channels be activated simultaneously, or is a time stagger needed? 4. What accuracy should the activation period have? Is 0.1 seconds sufficient? (referring to the pump's operating time)

Cheryl

1. Three is enough, but four is also possible. (magnesium) 2. One time will be sufficient, but two to three is fine. Twelve is too much. 3. At different times. 4. Accuracy is needed in mL.

Aaron580

If I'm not mistaken, these pumps deliver 1 ml/sec at a power supply voltage of 12 V. So, is an accuracy of 1 sec (1 ml) sufficient? How different? Hmm..... A trio of JBL micronutrients + calcium + magnesium. Already 5.

Jeffrey

The time difference should be at least 30 minutes so that the chemicals do not react with each other. The question was about balling, but you can also have 10 channels.

Joshua9340

How are the channels distributed in standard balling?

Janet5447

1. calcium 2. buffer 3. salt without salt you can also use 2 channels, pour salt without salt by hand once a week Classic recommendation: space out solutions 1 and 2 by half a day: morning/evening.

Anna9752

Salt without salt, I understand, is for adding trace elements? ................ I want to make something similar, but instead of the mixture of trace elements Fauna in, I want to add JBL's trio. The only thing I don't know is how to properly calculate how much to add. ................ Of course, I could go that route, but there is just too much chemistry needed, and it's very expensive (some salts cost 1000 for 100 grams).

Joshua8425

Here is the topic on balling in our forum, where everything is explained about the first two solutions. Yes It's better to take a branded salt without additives; it's not that expensive. Experienced enthusiasts of marine aquaristics don't really favor JBL "ivsky" additives - they say the effect is negligible.

Aaron

No. Salt without salt is added to compensate for the sodium and chlorine from the first two solutions, and the trace elements are present because it is regular sea salt; there are few of them, and they cannot be relied upon.

Julia

I wonder why Fauna in doesn't add salt-free salt to its billing?

Rebecca1419

Why doesn't it add? It adds!

Cassandra1840

If not to say that it doesn't exist at all... it's all nonsense, baloney...

Nancy758

Well, Claude Schumacher didn't say a word about it when he announced the balling method.

Jesse3979

So what to use?

Amy9618

Reactor

Michele

I'm talking about trace elements. If JBL is of no use, then what is?

Emily3506

Offtopic, in my opinion, balling is a temporary solution for such a volume. The "fauna" has a lot to offer, and there are trails as well.

Lisa

The question is probably philosophical. They say that balling is better than reactors. ........... I haven't seen Fauna's traces for sale in OUR online stores. I will probably try HW.

Jessica8898

In my opinion, the question remains controversial, especially for large aquariums filled with SPS corals... And just because Nikolai promotes baling doesn't mean it's better...

Bonnie

I'm saying - it's a philosophical question. I don't have SPS and it's unlikely that I will have "SPS filled," unless just a little bit.

Adrienne

In that case, baling is quite justified, and you should take FM. As I was told, the solutions there are more concentrated, so you need to dilute them less often or use smaller containers, depending on what is more beneficial for you.

Dana6523

Off-topic I left balling when my 300 liters were not enough for 250 ml of each solution per day, and I don't regret it at all. Carolina took off, growth increased, and expenses decreased.

Joseph8592

Alternative?

Tanya

The question is WHERE?

Julie

So we have FM delivering, won't they deliver if you order? Or, as a last resort, get used to online stores... foreign ones...

David

Vadim, I didn't quite understand your point. Tropic in PRO-SPECIAL MINERAL, as I understand it, is sea salt that does not contain sodium chloride (NaCl) and is intended for aquariums with saltwater and freshwater. This means it has all the trace elements found in sea salt but without sodium chloride (NaCl). This is what needed to be clarified: by adding this salt to the aquarium, we are adding all the trace elements that are present during water changes, but we do not increase the water density.

Barbara

I took three types, that is, two times from Fauna in the review photos. But I noticed that my Betta liked the Salt without salt from Tropic in PRO-SPECIAL MINERAL, this is not advertising, just two years of observations.

Amy5468

We are increasing. No matter what salt you sprinkle, the density increases.

Samuel6138

Offtopic. During balling, we raise the density that then needs to be compensated. Salt without salt dissolves only 25 grams per liter (a teaspoon). When adding this liter during balling, how many of these elements are there in a large volume?

Janet5447

Seryoga, you have presented everything correctly... however, regarding density, I want to say that balling and density are interconnected concepts. However, we must not forget that in a well-stocked reef aquarium, this factor cannot significantly change the density readings with proper balling method management, as all living organisms, absolutely all, not just a specific category of animals and algae, are consumers of ME groups 1 and 2. Therefore, the density in a reef aquarium of 1.024 must be, or rather should be, a constant value; otherwise, there will be an inadequate reaction.

Teresa

Tolya, we ALL forgot one fact: we add balling in solutions, but what is the density of these solutions? I'll come and measure it to calculate how much the density of water increases with balling.

Amber6362

Off-topic. Count it... just remember, the best is the enemy of the good, don't get too carried away with balling, or you'll spill the tub along with the baby.

Timothy

Measuring the density of the hexahydrate magnesium chloride solution did not work - the hygrometer is malfunctioning. We will have to calculate it. There is magnesium 1040, we need magnesium 1300. There are 450 liters of water. We need to add 458 grams of anhydrous magnesium chloride. The initial density of the water in the aquarium is 1.024. The density of the chloride is 2.316. The volume of the chloride is 0.1978 liters. The total weight of the water after adding magnesium = 450 * 1.024 + 0.458 = 461.26 kg. The volume of water = 450 + 0.1978 = 450.1978. The density after adding the chloride = 461.26 / 450.1978 = 1.02457, which is generally within acceptable limits. It's not that bad. Replacing 2-3 liters of water with osmosis.

Kellie

I recommend Bio-Calcium Liquid Refill from Tropic Marin. The creator of this method works for Tropic Marin and his last name is Balling. All three powders must be dissolved in a specific amount of water, and it is not possible to make the solution more concentrated. This applies not only to the original Bio-Calcium Liquid Refill (commonly referred to as Balling), but also to individual reagents from other manufacturers or in chemical reagent stores.

Eric

Can I find out the ingredients? I'm not against the brand, it's a good one, but I would be interested to know the composition.

Cynthia

what is the composition of?

Christopher7213

Powders A, B, and C

Yvette209

I respect humor. The first component A is calcium chloride dihydrate (CaCl2+2H2O). The second component B is baking soda (NaHCO3). The third component C is "salt without salt" (NaCl - free seasalt). I hope I don't need to elaborate on NaCl - free seasalt?

Luis3725

Yes, of course, if you're not lazy. But mixing it yourself is more expensive. Some salts cost 1200 for 100 grams, and they don't package less than 100 grams, but you need 5 grams for the rest of your life. I will most likely only get salt-without-salt. The rest I already have at home.