• Water? Need help.

  • Crystal

In connection with the planned testing of our marine aquarium tests and the possible refinement of scales for seawater, I request consultative assistance in acquiring salt for preparing seawater. Since almost no one is engaged with the sea here, could you advise if it is possible to simply buy a complete composition and dilute it, say, with osmosis? If so, what composition is best to use, where is it best to obtain it, and how should it be used correctly? We hope for your assistance and will strive to offer affordable and high-quality tests for marine use.

Julie

For normal and inexpensive sea salts, you can use Tetra ine SeaSalt. If you prefer something more expensive and of higher quality, then Tropic in Bio-Aktif or Pro reef would be suitable.

David953

Are there no nuances with the tetra? Just diluted it and that's it? And how long can the solution be stored?

Debra8438

Thank you. Everything is brief and clear. Well, shall we begin with a blessing?

Robert

What are you planning to measure in freshly prepared saltwater? Calcium and Magnesium? The quality of the salt? It's already somewhat known. It's more important to know the parameters in the aquarium with fish and corals...

Erica752

Water is the basis for standards. To build test scales, certain components are added additionally.

William

I tested Ptero with tetravalent salt. Apart from nitrates, I did not notice any deviations from JBL's indicators.

Jacob4800

Before presenting the product to sea enthusiasts, we must double-check everything ourselves and, as you accurately noted, create a separate scale for nitrates. After that, we will start developing the missing but important tests for the sea.

Kimberly

It is advisable to check the quality of osmosis water with a TDS meter - the closer the indicator is to zero, the better the osmosis works. Best regards.

Jill1815

Do you really think that we produce tests and know nothing about osmosis? We have an industrial setup.

Deborah2682

Ideally, reverse osmosis with post-treatment using composite resin (anion exchange + cation exchange) is needed. Osmotic membranes, even high-quality industrial ones, allow silicates to pass through.

Dennis

a............................clear

Melissa1838

Here's another question. What tests are needed first, besides the ones we are already producing? I searched the internet and it seems to me that Magnesium and Calcium are important. Is there anything else that is critically important?

Thomas5021

Copper. Every marine aquarist should have a copper test tucked away in a corner. It may never be needed, but when things start to go wrong and you don't understand why, the vial comes out. And at least one of the reasons is either ruled out or, God forbid, confirmed. As for Mg and Ca, yes, those are necessary!

Bryan1851

Understood. But I take it this is not critical? I'm only interested in the most important ones to start with. Like no test - no sea. Magnesium and calcium, is that correct?

Jessica6754

In order of decreasing importance: Calcium Magnesium Silicon (SiO2) Copper

Melissa3200

Agreed. Naturally, after phosphates, nitrates, and other nitrites with pH and KH.

Courtney

I listed the tests that Ptero does not have. They have phosphates, ammonium, nitrites, nitrates, iron, pH, and kH.

Debbie3587

Thank you. We'll figure it out.

Robert5335

must-have for any marine aquarist: 1) KH test 2) pH test 3) PO4 test 4) NO3 test the rest as needed ......................

Caleb6320

By the way, I'm also ready to be a tester - I currently have a wonderful opportunity for this - under the supervision of more than a dozen marine systems of various types, including fish systems, so there will be real results. Last time it was unclear whether the tests were working or not - in all the reefs, nitrates and phosphates were at zero!

Brandy1134

This is already there. Let's just double-check for the sea and make any necessary adjustments.

Justin9867

Thank you all. I think you understand that this won't happen tomorrow. But the movement is starting, and God willing, in a couple of months... we will be testing.

Sara

Well, as they say, HAVE A GOOD JOURNEY! We are waiting for the results!

Travis572

Here it is - there was an attempt to make a homemade Calcium (Ca) test, but after rereading the thread, I realized that nothing really came of it... So... Although a reasonable price is needed for the Ca test. Good luck!

Jacob7201

Hehe! Apparently, NATAC thanked him for making him smile... Because there is a solution to the issue there... But you need to read and understand... The rest is a matter of commerce...

Darrell5975

Well, yes.

Spencer7805

That's right, this is a test for determining divalent metals, just much coarser. The concentration of calcium is subtracted from it. Due to the latter, the determined value varies greatly among different manufacturers. The most important thing in this matter is to achieve sufficient stability and accuracy of the titrant.

Michael826

The basis should be the match of the test result with the standard data defined by the test. For whom and to whom? Manufacturers or consumers?

Thomas

pH, probably...

Antonio

And the price of the pH electronics / drop pH is mainly so that it is not equal to one or two... Then it makes sense to be...

Mario

I am talking about magnesium/calcium tests.

Stacy6866

Now it's clear. But it seems to me that it was obvious even before...

Charles5941

As always, a lot of seemingly smart statements about nothing. Well, never mind. I think I've figured it out.

Randall7906

The advice to "hit the bullseye" when shooting is of course "nothing at all." However, it is better than the advice to "shoot at sparrows" in the shooting range...

Emily3144

I believe my question was quite specific. Given that no one had shown interest in the sea until now, it turned out that there are many methods, not just the ones mentioned in the question. That's why we were interested in your opinion. For example, the method at Red Sea is completely different from JBL, and so on. Well, never mind. No opinion, no problem. And no one is planning to shoot at the sparrows. We will just prepare and release new tests.

Debbie3587

With tests, everything is simple: accuracy, simplicity, minimal reagents, sharp color transitions, price.

Karen81

Without a doubt, calcium and magnesium separately are more convenient.

Heather

I have a JBL calcium test and a Ca/Mg test from the same JBL. The calcium results differed by 60 units! And magnesium showed 1100. I mixed fresh water, and the result was: Mg-1100 Ca-360. I bought a coral and tested the water it arrived in, result: Ca-380 Mg-1100. In AiRife, they recommended the Ca/Mg test from Tropic Marin. The result: my aquarium Ca-424 Mg-1380. Fresh water Ca-424 Mg-1380. The water the coral arrived in Ca-420 Mg-1360. So now this JBL is just sitting on the shelf.

Justin9867

For a definitive diagnosis, it would be good to test the standard titer. Then the conclusion would be like that of a pathologist... The final authority in making the diagnosis...

Jade

This is definitely true. I've seen so much of that among the tests... I only trust the standard.

Lee425

Here are the initial outlines for calcium. Everything is just preliminary. I want to ask which color model suits you better and is more convenient/familiar for reading. These are two different indicators.

Alec9378

1st, as the color transition is clear and evident.

Brooke

Unfortunately, the photos do not convey the colors very well. The second one is a dark purple transition to bright green. This is not the final version yet. We will be adjusting the ratio. But for the base, it doesn't really matter which one we use.

Angela

Here is another option that came up today.

Jacob7201

I forgot a slightly revised version of the very first draft.

Mark

When will the trial batch be?

Nicole

We are just playing around for now. We will start working from the new year.

Breanna9982

HATAK, I haven't seen the topic before - I apologize. I should have called back right away - I could have provided different types of salt from various manufacturers, and I always have water from two different marine aquariums on hand. I can also lend you Tropic Marin tests for calcium and magnesium for comparison.

Joseph8842

Tests are not bad. If needed, I will definitely reach out.

Debra6575

Calcium. Well, it will be something like this. After that, it's a matter of technique, and in general, there are no problems. Everything is thought out, the components are mostly selected. We'll polish it a bit, and after the holidays, we'll prepare for release. It turned out to be a complicated task to find a suitable indicator among the Chinese influx.

Michael

I saw the topic and want to ask, do I have your NO2 tests, are they suitable for seawater?

Susan9583

They fit. I checked and compared them with JBL.

Luis3725

Our website contains descriptions of which tests are suitable.

Sheila1322

After adding solution No. 2 to the test tube, everything separated and the liquid became like glycerin. Could it be that the expiration date has passed? And what is it that you started sending to the website? I hadn't noticed this about you before.

Nicholas

1. Do you have the old version or the new one? The old one is not suitable. 2. You know that you are not the first and not the only one asking such questions on this forum. Do I need to list every time what is suitable and what is not? There is a manufacturer's website where everything is written. It's not difficult to take a look. And for others who want to ask a similar question but about some other test, it will be easier. They can just go and read. Don't look for a black cat... We are watching, listening, understanding, and working.

Tanner

I have an old one.

Todd

Off-topic The methodology has been completely changed in the new ones.

Amber9312

Will there be a transition from pink to blue in your test? If so, that's very good. In TM, there is a transition from light-light blue to transparent. Accordingly, one needs to "train" the eye to distinguish the change in shades.

Melinda

So.

Johnny

Off-topic... in a physical sense, for TM technologists, due to such color transitions. I can't wait for this test to be over.

Kristin

You shouldn't be so harsh on TM. I'm used to it. I test on white paper + source water. Transitioning from pink to blue is like Sera. One drop - 20 mg/L. Test it and you'll find out.

Heather9815

How come you all know so much about us... Even without us, you've made decisions for us. By the way, Salifert and Red Sea also have similar transitions, and it doesn't seem to bother them.

Caroline1599

Off-topic Yes, there is no accuracy like that of TM. But I accept the "transitional color" as a result without adding a control drop.

Ryan7682

There's no need to shout like that. It's already evening, and people are resting. Stick to your opinion. If there's another opinion, speak calmly, and you will be heard.

Patricia1746

I think you heard a bit wrong. No one was planning to shout or get tense. Why? Don't overestimate the situation. Whatever you might have imagined, it won't change anything. The tests will be released, and we hope they will find their buyer. Enjoy your rest.

Monica

No one is hysterically doing anything. Why do you have such a biased opinion? Do you think this way about everyone? For me, it's complete relaxation. As for the drops, who told you or where did you read that the test will be drop-based and not titrated? Why is everything so pessimistic for you? Or is everyone just getting in the way of your relaxation?

Bethany

Do good things, everyone needs them.

Jacqueline5976

Thank you for the blessing.

Matthew

Amen.

Curtis9143

After some delay, a calcium test for marine aquariums has been released. More details here. Applications for testing are here.