small Entacmaea Quadricolor and big clown

Lee425

Good afternoon. I bought an Entacmaea Quadricolor about 5-6 cm in size. It arrived yesterday and immediately settled under a rock in the center of the aquarium. Everything was fine, but today the clownfish spotted it and started terrorizing the anemone. The thing is, the clownfish is larger than the anemone and is aggressively and delicately bumping into it. What should I do? Separate them? I'm worried about the little one!

Randy

Cover it with a piece of a plastic bottle for a day or two to help it recover.

Ryan2281

It's useless. A large clownfish can easily "fall in love" with a small anemone. Ideally, the anemone should be several times larger than the clownfish. If possible, separate them into different aquariums. If not, it's better to give away/sell/gift them to someone.

Jason5071

For now, I observe that the anemone seems to have grown larger and stretched out on its foot from under the rock. It seems to me that if it were unwell, it would have contracted instead. Or am I mistaken? I have a place to move it, but the clownfish is quite cunning; I've already tried to catch it without success, and I have zero experience in prying off the anemone, so I don't want to make things worse!

Andrew419

Observe the clown for now, for his persistence.

Alyssa6727

Don't worry, if the anemone is fine, the clown's persistence won't harm it. The main thing is to ensure there is enough light and water flow, and don't force-feed it, or it will die. It knows what it needs, so just leave both alone and observe.

Rachel

I had that at first... I hid behind a rock... and then I just closed up when the fish approached... now I've grown up... it's possible for the clowns to get into the anemone... but now the fish ignore it.

Melinda2740

Thank you all, as long as the anemone is not too stressed, it doesn't hide, it seems they have an idyll, but it's just a bit small for the clown, in general, I'm waiting for it to grow. The light bubble chose itself, it would be too little to hide halfway under a rock, I think, there is current, feeding -- I read once a week or let it fend for itself?

Angela6489

It is better to feed with frozen brine shrimp once a week, previously thawed in seawater. Take a syringe, put a 15 cm dropper on the tip, then draw up a cube of frozen brine shrimp and carefully inject it into the anemone. To prevent the clownfish from taking food from its stomach, you should feed it well beforehand. It is better to drive the clownfish away during the anemone's feeding, or cover the anemone with a transparent container and wait until it completely eats the brine shrimp; otherwise, the clownfish will not allow it to do so.

Jeremy

One has also crawled into the anemone again... so I have to drive him away... put a shrimp in the embrace of the anemone... touch the edges of the anemone to make it close... and then it starts to chew.

Noah1632

I finally got the clownfish to take the anemone, it crawled into a crevice between the rocks. I won't disturb it for now, let it rest from the annoying tenant, but it doesn't fully open up, it's a bit cramped in the crack. This jerk is circling around, stirring up the muck, I placed a fist-sized rock nearby and moved it! What a pathetic clown, damn it!

Cheyenne2747

Arrest him and put him in the samp, let him live there while the action gets into shape, since he's so Dostoevskian.

David4089

There are surely signs of stress here. And not just from the volume. Sometimes, for certain animals, changes in the environment can lead to death. It seems there is a reason for the saying "does not reproduce in captivity."

Tiffany5069

What does stress have to do with it? A clown would rather hide in the rocks than squeeze into an anemone.

Vanessa6144

Of course, it's not without reason. Creating conditions in an aquarium that are as close to natural as possible is not achievable for all fish species, and this is the main factor in achieving reproduction. The most striking example is the grass carp and the Amur carp, which do not reproduce on their own but are found everywhere. Hormonal "interventions" (injections) help with this. So the issue is not about stress.

Ryan

Offtopic The water temperature is not suitable, so the reproductive products do not mature. They make an injection, then collect the eggs and milt and mix them in a bowl. Well, that happens too. If you put a net in the aquarium, the clowns hide behind the rocks, but if you put your hand in, they'll bite. Stress varies in nature.

Stacey4437

It is now established that the relationship between amphiprions and anemones is mutualistic, meaning it is beneficial for both partners, although the benefit received by the fish seems to be more significant than that received by the anemone.

Jeffrey

So, this is the essence of symbiosis in mutual benefit for both species. It's just that in this case, it's about the oppressed anemone.

Steven

Speak a word for the poor anemone... entacmaea, one of the most resilient anemones, so we will consider its future in an optimistic light. And the amphiprion, whose roof is apparently not in place, seems to have already been relocated by its owner.

Randy

And yet, she is also capable of departing to another world... The "roof" is just fine with the amphiprion. It follows its instincts. They should have been separated from the very beginning.

Laura3615

Typically, all pomacentrid territorial species live in large schools or harems in nature, and in an aquarium (of average size), their behavior within their species is the same, but they are aggressive towards others, with some being more aggressive than others. This is why there are specific stocking rules in marine aquaristics that take into account the aggressiveness of the species. If you place a larger bush of acropora (which can be artificial) and there are no other hiding spots, the behavior of the damselfish school will be similar to that in nature (though sometimes they need to be startled to feel a sense of danger).

Michele9664

My dear, we have all seen Dima's aquarium a long time ago, and there is no point in discussing its "completeness" because it is amazing. Whether he is currently active there or not does not matter. The main thing is that we know nothing about you; unfortunately, everything is encrypted. You write quite "substantially." This is where your merits end. The conclusion is clear. And regarding the entakmeia, Vano, don't worry. Moreover, we have established correspondence with him in private messages almost daily.

Amy1672

Posting photos of your marine aquarium and showing its condition is not bragging or comparing sizes. It serves as a visual aid for beginners in the marine hobby and raises many questions for the experienced. People are valued for their actions, not for pretty words. When nothing is known about a person and they consciously try to hide information about themselves, understand me correctly, it raises other thoughts and causes concern.

David2398

Don't worry. When I was diving in the Red Sea, the anemone with clownfish was also in a crevice (hard to see) and it was already quite big. So they hide in nature too.

William

Off-topic after M.A. (marine aquarium) threads, I get the impression that all the double nicknames in English are, to put it mildly, inadequate.

Danielle

Well, yes... My entacmaea at Porsha are dividing, and in the aquarium, besides this species, which, by the way, has been living for 8 years, there is another one. The entacmaea was even smaller than Vano's in the photo, looked exactly the same, and grew beautifully until it outgrew the button at 40 cm. By the way, in the presence of a female of the same premnas as Vano. Her photo is in the profile. My competence is in the profile, in the posts and topics. And you, as a "competent" person in anemones, and in general in M.A. (marine aquarium), have not posted anything worthwhile for viewing, just vague, meaningless phrases. Empty sounds. Taking them seriously is an unserious activity.

Katie5500

We'll see! And the avatar has a bit of a morgue vibe.

Sydney

They have already posted it... to their own detriment... with the easy obedience of experienced hands, everything is ordered to bend... so there's no point in posting it---- and regarding the anemone, it's true--- it will live... my clown barely fit... now the second one is already trying to settle its backside in the anemone.... it has grown... just feed it regularly... the little anemone grows quickly.

Jose

Hmm... it's a tough case... I wonder what it is that stirs people up... Is it because I said that the anemone grows despite the clownfish's (love) for it? That it is already capable of accommodating a second clownfish... or is it because I regularly feed it and say that everything will be fine?

Frank7213

Premnas is definitely crazy, he messed up the road on the other side (his symbiosis is abnormal). Due to his extraordinary cunning, a stone was removed and the actinia temporarily moved to the sump, I found no other way! The crazy one continues to destroy the reef, after the bubble disappears - it completely blows his mind!

James3382

It was necessary to send that idiot to the samp, and then to some fishery... A large premnas can move huge things and scatter sand; his strength is like that of a hero.

Andrea9320

Tolya, well, it's just not biting, come on, I can't be pulling out a winter fishing rod...

Kayla7655

Vanya, try turning on the light suddenly in the deep of night when he's sleeping, scare him out of hiding and catch him with a net. What, he doesn't go into the trap?

Linda

No way, it eats from hand, doesn't go into traps...

Judy

Try to feed him from a liter aquarium, into which you should first throw some brine shrimp while holding it in your hands; he might swim in there. That's how I caught mine once. In general, he should eventually go into a 3-liter bottle if you lay it on its side and pour some brine shrimp inside. Or try to scoop him with a net in your left hand at the moment when he is eating from your hands.

Yvette209

Rather, the master of the premnas is abnormal, or will you continue to resist. "Drain the water, dry the oars" (C) To be honest, I already "deeply don't care" whether your actinia survives or not. Now you've definitely buried it, get ready for the pies. I saw it coming, just don't say that I "jinxed" it.

Heather9815

The actinia has been fragrant in the samp for a long time... Gravedigger, come on! Please refrain from your expressions!

Jill9137

Good luck...

Alyssa1438

Yes and no. YES - it's maturation, NO - not only "spawning in tubs," but also full-fledged in pools. Turkmenistan - yes, Kuban - only in theory, just like the Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Station. That's right, just rumors.

Katie3017

Vanya, have you already tried the tiger shrimp?

Cynthia

I also got clowns and entacmaea for myself. The situation is similar. The clowns immediately started to "populate" it, as a result of which it ran away and hid on the side glass behind a bush of bactrioclaudia.

Shane

Offtopic, I was also warned once... but I, like a disobedient child, stood my ground. Premnas has grown and moves SUCH stones – you could admire it. And, to my great joy, this snake also digs trenches in full profile for shooting while standing on a horse, so hold on, genatsvale. I also tried to protect my actinia from the overly persistent advances of the fish... on the side. The aquarium was pried open like a cap from a beer bottle. And meanwhile, Premnas was hitting my fingers with its head like a ram in rut... I won't mention that it was also turning the pump with its forehead. Premnas is stubbornness and the character of a fighter, plus a terrible gossip, a jealous one, and possessive.

Nicole

How is your anemone? The thing is, I also planted an anemone, but I didn't enjoy it for long, just one day. Today, the clownfish noticed it, and the terror began. The anemone isn't small, but the clownfish is a big one, about 9-10 cm. It crawled into the rocks; I don't want to interfere for now.