• Clown triggerfish

  • Matthew

Good afternoon! There is a problem with the clown loach; it has stopped eating and has been acting lethargic for the second day. I bought it a couple of months ago, and after three days, one started eating poorly and ended up dying. I got another one, and it seems to be the same situation. I also noticed that the fish has changed its color; the top has become darker... could this be a coincidence?

Leslie

Hello, yes, the question is interesting, and I am immediately interested in 1. Did your "clown" come to you from nature or was it bred? 2. What food did you give them? 3. When was the last water change made, with what water, and in what quantity? Also, if possible, could you provide the following information: Temperature, Salinity, pH, Calcium, Nitrite?

Rachel

Hello, yes, the question is interesting, and I am immediately interested in: 1. Did your "clown" come from the wild or is it bred? 2. What food have you been giving them? 3. When was the last water change made, what water was used, and in what quantity? Also, if possible, could you provide the following information: Temperature, Salinity, pH, Calcium. 1. The clown is from the wild. 2. I feed them JBL KRILL (dry), Optimum Salt H2O Flakes (dry, purchased at an aquarium center), and Artemia (frozen). 3. I did a water change 2 days ago, changing 20 liters. 4. The temperature does not rise above 27°C (there is a fan for cooling). 5. Salinity is 1.023-1.026. 6. pH is 8.2-8.4. 7. Calcium is 420.

Jennifer7578

The thing is, he ate with me for a week, then for the second week he ate everything I threw, and now he has stopped reacting to food. I think he is just poisoned... and there is probably a chance that he won't make it, well, we'll see what happens. As an option, I might have to take him to a foster home and breed him... Thank you for responding.

Michelle5859

Try live food, maybe your friend will start eating. Don't give up, keep fighting. Good luck to you.

Angela7060

They are rarely treated, as at this size the mortality rate is one hundred percent; it's easier to gather juveniles during the season. Your clown has one of the signature ailments, which is hard to specify. Typically, they have a mix of gill flukes, Brooklynella, and bacterial infections. The food is not the issue; they eat Artemia just fine. Try baths with Sera Baktopur Direct, twice a day for 10-15 minutes. It might help.

Corey3201

Tomorrow I'll try. How many days should I continue these baths? What is the volume of the quarantine tank and how many tablets?

Elizabeth1221

I make half a tablet for five liters, aeration is mandatory. It would be good to pass it through a bath with azipirine or another drug against gill flukes.

Angela6489

I did one bath today for 15 minutes. There is NO result... I mixed 1 tablet in 3 liters of water, and I left the water for next time; I will try again in the evening.

Kellie

How are you doing with your sick one? Please keep us updated, we are worried.

Frederick

Today I returned from the sea (the aquarium was unattended for 7 days), the clownfish seems to have revived and started eating. Before I left, I did two days of baths, then I went away. Now everything seems to be good.

Chris

How did the aquarium cope with the lack of supervision? In detail, please.

Tracey

No way... sand for tomonts is the same as stones, algae, and everything else where cysts can be found. They don't have specialized settlements... After the cysts release the tomonts, their primary task is to find a host, so besides sand, they spread wherever they can. If a host is not found, the parasite dies within two weeks.

Zoe7451

I wonder if anyone has tried treating crypt with Bicillin-5? It helps with some forms of ich.

Alejandro

It seems there are no such instructions... And I don't know any pioneers. And how he will turn seawater into ratatouille...

Christopher1252

In the sea - I don't know, but it's only used in baths, otherwise the biobalance can be ruined. 1,500,000 IU per 10 liters of water, exposure time 10-30 minutes (better to ask, of course). There is also a more "gentle" preparation - Delagil. I have B5 in the fridge for several years, fortunately, it hasn't been needed.

Deborah2682

Delagil does not work in the sea, bicillin works, but as an antibiotic, crypt only affects copper in the sea. And formalin, of course... but that's another story.

Aaron6112

So, does it help to heal the sores left after the exit of crypto carriers (and other wounds)? It's a bit scary. Will it not harm the corals? I won't even ask about the shrimp; they will definitely be affected.

Amy1672

Seryozha, copper in the aquarium is categorically incompatible with shrimp. It can be used with fish, but even then, some species, like surgeons, may not tolerate it; a different medication that does not contain copper is needed.

Tracy

So I suspected.

Robin

I forgot to mention another symptom: - The fish naturally does not defecate, but after about seven days, a transparent thin string comes out of it. Catching a wrasse in the reef that has no appetite, before it completely weakens, is almost impossible (even at night) - this complicates the situation significantly. Dear bright minds! I have three more newly arrived fish. So, what are the theories about the disease and, most importantly, what should we treat it with? The medications listed above are ineffective.

Debra

Sanya, quarantine, mild medications + vitamin-enriched feed. It would also be good to have some anti-stress. The disease should not be treated; it should be prevented. Your fish are not sick yet; they are just carriers of the infection. For medications, that's to the vet. As for feed and anti-stress, they will probably advise you.

Yvette209

How are the three newcomers feeling? As for those who refused to eat but are not affected by cryptos, Sanya, it's unlikely anyone can tell you anything specific; there can be many reasons. Sometimes with sea fish, it slowly fades away, and no matter what tricks you perform in front of it, it has its own course—"towards the rainbow." A vivid example is with the helmons. How many sailors have already had issues with them and will continue to do so. But besides helmons, there are plenty of other examples where you do everything right, the fish is perfectly healthy, and one fine morning you find it on the bottom without any signs of life. Now sit down and scratch your head, trying to figure out what went wrong...

Christina9947

+1000

Bridget

According to the description, intestinal and gill parasites. I don't know how it is in the sea (I'm curious myself), but when I kept discus fish, the symptoms were exactly the same. It was treated with slightly different medications, but garlic helped in the early stages and as a preventive measure.

Catherine

None of the dwarf gouramis from my batch survived. Some had already grown quite a bit by the time they died, the last pair lasted six months, but... it seems that was their fate. And all without any visible reasons. You just take out a dead fish from the aquarium in the morning or evening, and that's it.

Tina

A plausible assumption, but all treatment methods turned out to be ineffective; there is a suggestion that amphiprions were poisoned.

Holly

San, maybe you should try this medication as well, it might help like Iodine did. I ordered it for myself too, but I haven't received it yet; I will also try it.

Robert1845

The fish is clean - there is no crypto on it.

Rodney7316

Well, if they are infested, there's nothing you can do about it. I fought against parasites in discus fish with a combination of medications: metronidazole, furazolidone, and vermox. The first two are auxiliary, while the last one is specifically for parasites. I'm interested in the opinions of knowledgeable people on the possibility of treating marine fish with these medications in baths when typical symptoms of parasites are present: thread-like transparent feces and difficulty breathing. It seems that furazolidone also acts as an immunomodulator to some extent... Plus, if the "worms" have indeed infested the fish, it's very difficult to get them out.

Vanessa

So far, everything is normal (knock on wood), they've already grown some bubbles, and they started sorting the food, tasty or not, big or small. One of the altum cichlids isn't coming out - it realized that the food just flies in there, it just needs to open its mouth - the other two are a bit slow in the corner, but seeing me, they swim over. I'm carefully watching their breathing and mouths.

Mariah

Such treatment is possible, but if the fish is weak, it's better to leave it alone. Once, I treated leopard groupers for gill parasites, giving them formalin baths for 30 minutes. However, the grouper is not an ocellaris, although it is also important to closely monitor its condition during treatment.

Tammy2040

Diagnosis is the top priority! The topic was here - Don't hesitate to visit colleagues.

Karen81

Bactopur Direct, I couldn't find it, so an analogue Furan-2 was used - maybe Direct would have really helped... The funniest thing is that they pay attention to the droppings on the logo, and after that, there's a panic, while I immediately watch the appetite; the droppings are the consequences.

Caroline1599

It is possible, but ...... "A radical method of combating in aquariums is delagil, which is added to the aquarium for 4 days at a concentration of 10 mg per 1 liter of water (in the absence of hydrobionts and after removing activated carbon from the filters). In addition to delagil, good results are achieved with the drug primaquine – 5 mg per 1 liter of water, used in the same way as delagil." Yunchis O.N. Infectious Diseases of Marine Aquarium Fish ............. I am not doing this for argument's sake. I was checking my memory. I must have read about delagil somewhere.

Jennifer7159

I heard this directly from him, which is why I tried to use it as a method that spares bacteria and crustaceans. It doesn't work. Rather, let's say that the determining factor is the fish's immunity, not the drug. Oleg Nikolaevich confirmed this.

Jeremy3637

Please tell me what’s wrong with the clown, is it a crypt or not? For four days, I’ve been pouring Seachem's Paraguard, Day 1 - 1/4 of the dose recommended by the manufacturer Day 2 - 1/3 Day 3 - 1/2 Day 4 - 1/1.75 One clown has completely recovered, but the other hasn’t improved yet, although before using the medication, the clown swam little and often lay in the substrate. After applying the treatment, it became active, both are chasing food, so overall, their appetite is good.

Gene1948

This is not cryptocaryon. It is most likely lymphocystis. It is a viral disease caused by a weakening of the fish's immune system. In advanced stages, it can lead to a bacterial infection. Usually, it resolves on its own without treatment, gradually disappearing if the conditions in the aquarium are appropriate.

Nicholas

It doesn't look like it at all, this is a bacterial infection. The treatment is baths using "Sera Bactopur." It usually helped.

Sara

There are two options: the first is brooklynella, the second is that the clowns fought and a bacterial infection developed on the wound surface. In the first case, it is necessary to separate and treat, in the second, it is enough to bathe in Bactopur a couple of times.

Charles4157

I would separate one after it becomes clear that two are trying to form a pair. The third one will be bullied, will hide, eat poorly, and be stressed. He won't last long in such a situation.

Andrea6761

I would read carefully:

Daniel

Offtopic You also need to understand this. How many otocinclus do you have living in the aquarium right now? 3? One too many. Read above to see why I think so.

Joshua

Good afternoon. Today I noticed that one of my ocellaris clownfish has some spots. It looks like ich. Can you advise on the best way to treat it? Thank you.

Alec9378

Have you read this topic from beginning to end? I believe it has already been described here how and with what to treat, and links to topics about treatment were provided.

Chad4168

Some say not to treat, but to provide a varied diet, others mention sulfur Bactopur, and others suggest Sych. Where should I even start?

Stephen5857

My second Otsik repeated the above exactly!!! It lasted for two weeks. Yesterday, he pounced on the food. It seems to me, and I cross myself, that this is how they behave during a gender transition - or self-treatment through starvation. Don't rush to take them to the clinics - they suffer painfully there...

Mitchell3177

unlikely..........most likely during this time their liver is somewhat detoxifying from cyanides.........

Nicole263

Cyanides, like heavy radioactive elements, are not excreted from the body!

Stephanie3084

It's not entirely accurate to express the thought - cyanides lead to irreversible reactions in the body - their elimination is no longer important - the fact that they were present is what matters... I think the poisoned fish is doomed - sooner or later - this is not the case I am observing.

Darrell7542

In case of cyanide poisoning, the liver is likely to decompose. As they say: it's too late to drink Borjomi.

Maria

Either a wound from a fight or a brooklynella. What's up with the carbonated water you have?