• Biosystem or High-tech. +/-

  • Ryan2281

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Samuel6138

Heh... Why is everyone so passive? Where is the criticism or the additions?

Emily

In principle, the Classic Marine "Biosystem" is described correctly but concisely; I would add that ion exchange resins are needed for the reef after osmosis, as well as flow... In a high-tech aquarium, it is suitable for keeping goldfish and turtles. Such an aquarium can quickly turn into a swamp, and using ozone in apartments is not safe. The question is, if stones are not needed, can corals be attached directly to the glass?

James4757

Are you trying to say that, for example, Stepanov (one of the founders of marine aquaristics back in the USSR and now Russia) keeps his sea for turtles and crucian carps? It seems to me that you are extremely incompetent, although maybe you wanted to express your preference for the Biosystem, but did not provide any substantiated arguments. By the way, large oceanariums use a water purification system with powerful denitrification filters capable of removing huge amounts of nitrates from the water. And that is correct, because no amount of live rock (LR) can handle such a load. Why is the proper use of ozone in a marine aquarium dangerous? The safety issue has long been discussed, considered, and clear recommendations have been made. For example, Ov et al. write sensibly about this in the book "Marine Aquarium." The ozonator boosts nitrification to the maximum, significantly improves the efficiency of the skimmer. It operates via a controller with a res sensor. There is nothing scary about this. It just costs money and requires maintenance. Corals are attached to plastic decorations or, if they came with rock, are placed along with it.

Monica

In Stepanov's time, no company was transporting live rocks, so what could he experiment with? So maybe it's better to spend money on a POWERFUL skimmer rather than also spending on an ozonator? The question is, are we talking about a REEF or a fish aquarium?

Brian

The reef, as it should be, is with rigid and all matters. What I talked about in the previous post is now at his home, not "in the times of Stepanov..." (something you're talking about him in the past tense... not good, haha) But he is just a separate example. There are others. I haven't seen any unsuccessful high-tech people yet. When I meet one, I'll write about it. Regarding the powerful pennic instead of the ozonator... You will never raise Rx above 400-430 without it. And even if you do, the result will be extremely short-lived. And the optimum is still closer to 450-460. Here, the issue of "difference" is debatable, but there is an opinion that it is very significant in relation to rigid ones. And still closer to the topic... What are the arguments for or against bio and high-tech... Regarding your comments on the brief description, they are the same in both systems, so they are "off-screen"... Well, or if you want to collect a complete description - I will be happy to adjust it... But write it out in

David2398

You constantly mention Stepanov and what is at his house. It seems that you and he are the same person. So show us what is at his house... At home, by the way, not at the serviced facility. Added after 2 hours and 30 minutes - I still read what you deleted in the topic! Don't be shy - YOU SAID EVERYTHING RIGHT!!!

Dawn6148

Let me mention A.V. and S.I. Savchuk. Will that make it easier for you? Maybe I should give examples of American specialists?

Mark9853

It would be easier for me if you provided examples of your work.

Christine

I can also provide a couple of dozen American specialists. There are many different examples of aquariums with a 1-ton capacity and a sump of 2 tons at Reef Central (not everyone has access to that). This doesn't say anything. I can also provide two dozen American products, of which just one jar is enough to dispel any myths about biofiltration. Show me your example of a truly functioning system.

Emma

1. What is the purpose of sponges in general? To catch detritus or other floating debris? Personally, I remove detritus from the sump and mix it with food, then pour it back into the aquarium in small portions. Would you like me to show you the size of those Dendronephthya after such an operation? Why make the aquarium system sterile? 2. A standard-power skimmer in our understanding is a device capable of maintaining 3 clownfish and a few more fish, and I won't go into the3 Bs because I don't see the point, as a huge number of aquariums are successful without it. 3. Do you think it's better not to deprive the aquarium of the same chlorine? Or, for example, our pipes are cleaned once a week, and no remover will help after that. The hard ones really don't like it, it's not easier to pour 0 water + the same Ballin method. 4. You can feed every hour, but only 10% of that feeding will be absorbed, and the rest will go down the drain. Those 10% are just enough to feed all the inhabitants, and the other 90% will either start to rot or go out with the skimmer. 5. Charcoal removes but not everything, and if you're familiar with American aquariums, you should know that charcoal is not always a panacea. Corals and invertebrates need to be carefully transitioned to it... there have long been safer products. 6. Denitrification through the filter also makes me laugh - can you show at least someone else's example? A powerful DSB is much better. 7. I've outgrown... read... for me, this book is not an example, it

Kellie

Pouring water and letting it settle in buckets brought a tear of nostalgia for the old times. Saving on osmosis and maintaining expensive corals, with some costing more than the osmosis system, is already absurd. Tunze only has good streams with controllers; unfortunately, they don't stand out in any other way.

George5104

Theory without practice is dead, dear. And it's not high-tech; it's an ancient, morally outdated system for maintaining the viability of a marine aquarium, thoroughly described in the literature of the 1980s.

Wendy2244

"Dear," you provoke aggression because you suggest weighing the pros and cons of Biosystems and High-Tech, while imposing your opinion of "high-tech" (old stuff) on everyone. I am not worried about the advanced participants of the forum. They won't fall for this, but if a newcomer reads this (old stuff) - they will be misled, and that is upsetting. In my opinion, the forum carries information with the aim of helping, advising, and preventing mistakes.

Larry9400

keep burning! I especially want to hear about sponges and your water retention system.

Paul

Please come back, everyone wants to see your Hi-Tech.

Cynthia

he won't come back, the person gathered information for himself and now won't show up (and we were here arguing) fewer of such provocateurs should appear...

Elizabeth

We would have told him everything anyway, without provocations. He turned out to be a very arrogant guy.

Frederick

You didn't understand anything. He, with the best intentions, wanted everyone to support his progressive High-Tech Aquarium model and accept it as the only correct one, and you dared to disagree, thus wounding him right in the heart. How shameful of you, ungrateful ones.