Marine aquarium

Mario

If there are marine aquarium enthusiasts, please respond. It would be nice to chat on this forum.

Amanda5586

Dear Sir, do not mislead the public. What is this? Is the carbonate hardness of 7 German degrees in natural seawater and about 10-14 degrees in artificial water a figment of my imagination? In fact, everything I measure has long since precipitated out? How is it calculated? I repeat, carbonate dissolves when the pH of the solution drops below 7; no one will survive in a marine aquarium with that amount of carbon dioxide dissolved in the aquarium water.

Emily3144

You are right. Regarding "all bicarbonates," I clearly got carried away and indicated hardness in different units (in relation to the nighttime writing). I have edited the text. Thank you. How can we hang the graphs? Everything would be immediately clear. By the way, I didn't understand what is meant by "carbonate dissolves when the pH of the solution drops below 7." Bicarbonates are present in the pH range of 4-11, peaking at pH 8.3, or was something else meant?

Justin

I strongly urge you not to suggest outright nonsense regarding marine topics; the methods mentioned above are borrowed from freshwater aquariums and are outdated by 15 years. The filtration systems for marine aquariums are completely different.

Kristen1161

I'm thrilled by the phrase "The filtration systems of marine aquariums are completely different." Why not just point out - here, read this, or - look here... BUT WHAT KIND? IF THEY ARE DIFFERENT? WHAT KIND?

Brandy

Fedor, I didn't even understand what it was about. Translate.

William5838

To be honest, so do I. In my opinion, the only new element present in the marine aquarium is the foam separator. Everything else is just a repetition from freshwater. Or maybe I don't know something and there are some new trends?

Brandon4517

Moreover, a foam separator can also be used in freshwater (though its effectiveness is much lower). In classic freshwater and classic seawater, only the pH and mineralization are different. Because of this, many processes occur slightly differently, but there are no fundamental differences.

Sara4035

The boundaries of parameter fluctuations are already shifting, making them harder to maintain, and the hydrobionts are more delicate.

Tracy4603

Very very interesting, but can someone provide a step-by-step recipe?

Sharon

To be honest, I somewhat agree with Fedor, and specifically regarding the filtration system, it is necessary to know: 1. what type of aquarium (reef or just fish) 2. the volume of the aquarium, 3. the number of animals 4. the water change system. For example, with my filtration system, I have achieved a fish stocking density in the reef that is 3-4 times higher than the generally accepted standards. Sincerely, S.I.

Omar3497

I completely forgot, the fifth and one of the main conditions is the quantity and quality of living stones.

Heather6148

And if we talk about the problem of nitrates in the reef, that's a completely separate topic that can be discussed.

Joshua9340

With all due respect, I believe you are not entirely correct in your understanding of the purpose of a calcium reactor. This device is not meant for regulating pH levels, but for saturating aquarium water with calcium (which is essential for corals, especially hard ones). Indeed, the active release of calcium into the aquarium water begins at a pH in the calcium reactor of less than 7, usually around 6.5, which enhances the buffering capacity of seawater and, consequently, stabilizes pH. Sincerely, S. I. By the way, the value of live rocks in the biosystem of a marine aquarium, especially a reef, is hard to overestimate.

Julie4738

I have no objections. However, when talking to a user, the calcium reactor serves to saturate seawater with soluble calcium compounds, and live rocks are indispensable. The leitmotif is: it costs this much, press the button and you don't need to know anything else. This is what provoked my reaction. Because the questions in the topic are framed differently. People want to know what's going on, so they can decide for themselves what to set up, in what configuration, and how to do it with minimal losses. In this situation, to talk about the calcium reactor only as a source of calcium - at best, it is deliberately (or out of ignorance) avoiding answering the question, and at worst, it is a planned approach to disaster. By saying that it is a pH regulator, I immediately showed the mechanism of action. Don't bite on commercial names. What would the discussion in the topic look like if the device was called a carbon dioxide reactor, which is equally valid? The same goes for live rocks. How many debates, and eventually someone will write a review of all aspects of their presence in the aquarium. The price of $20 USD somehow popped up right away. I am very grateful for the phrase regarding the topic "Should I siphon the substrate?" that you can do something contrary to generally accepted principles if you

Kevin3114

You've got to be kidding me, not this again... The calcium reactor is solely for maintaining calcium levels in seawater, where organisms consume it. With a calcium reactor, the aquarium pH is7.9-8.1, while without it, it easily stays at 8.2. So what does it actually maintain then? When talking about maintenance, one can mention the so-called "kalkwasser" - a calcium hydroxide solution with a very high pH of 10-12. It's often topped up to counterbalance the pH drop from the calcium reactor's operation. And live rock is practically a household name in marine aquarium keeping

Robert

The calcium reactor is exclusively needed to maintain the calcium level in seawater, and precisely where it is consumed by organisms.... - I agree 100%. The pH in an aquarium with a calcium reactor is at the level of 7.9-8.1, while without it, it is perfectly maintained at 8.2.... - In a mature aquarium (reef), as a rule, the pH at night is 8-8.1, during the day - 8.3-8.4. In a reef aquarium, as soon as the calcium reactor stops working properly and the calcium content falls below 400 ppm, you will begin to lose hard corals, and the pH will become erratic. You can deal with the latter using buffer solutions, but this will not help the corals. And live rocks have become a household name in marine aquarium keeping.... ;o) - A little about practice. Let the doubters try in a reef aquarium of even 1000 liters (which has at least a dozen large fish, and not 3 crespiters and 2 oscillators), without the presence of at least 20% of the volume of live rocks (of good quality) even with the presence of a chemical and biological denitrifier, to maintain the nitrate level below 10, and I will take my hat off to them. Sincerely,

Christine864

How necessary is a reactor if there are no corals and the pH is 7.8-8?

Jessica5016

A reactor is not needed; we need to find the cause of the low pH.

Richard2180

I apologize, but I do not have the opportunity to elaborate on the same material once again, so I refer everyone to the section "Content of Calcium in Seawater" in Martin Sanders' book "Technical Equipment for Aquariums," Moscow, Astrel ACT, 2002, pages 148-155. I have never encountered a worse translation in my life, but it can be understood with a certain degree of imagination. Questions about the material: 1. What parts does a "calcium reactor" consist of? 2. Is it a regulator of the pH of water in a marine aquarium? 3. Is it possible to inject carbon dioxide directly into the aquarium?

Amy9618

Dear, how many aquarists use the aforementioned book when setting up their tanks?

Brent7831

In general, guys, I propose to close this already meaningless dialogue - a reactor makes sense to install either in aquariums of good volume (500 liters and more) or when keeping SPS corals. Of course, we must give credit to MD JEORGICK - with such enviable stubbornness, not everyone can call out the obvious nonsense (for marine aquarists). To be honest, I wouldn't want to subject his statements to such harsh criticism, but I wouldn't want any beginners in marine aquaristics to dare to undertake similar experiments - after all, it costs a considerable amount of money.

Sheila1322

Yes......, let's move on to the next round. You need to justify your thoughts instead of referring to literature, where, by the way, nothing like that is written. In the content of the chapter you are referring to, there is not a word about pH regulation using a reactor. You need to distinguish between the concept of changing pH and regulating pH. I also did not find any recommendations for injecting CO2 into a marine aquarium, even though I had to reread the book. I am closing the topic; all reasoned thoughts are welcome in new threads.

Maria

I saw in the gallery (photo) there are Black Sea catfish and scorpionfish with anemones and clownfish in one aquarium, or am I mixing things up?

Tammy2040

I was at your maritime forum - the impression is very good. It seems to me that our sea is in an even more nascent state than in Russia. But we have to start sometime. Perhaps you would like to create a maritime page on our forum? And you could share your experience, which, as I understand, is indeed substantial.

Andrew9581

2 Jurassik What makes you think that the company, and specifically the marine forum of the company's website, is related (aside from the topic) to "Aquarium Technologies"?

Leah

Because they all hang out there.

Amy9618

Yura, you got a bit mixed up. He works as an ichthyologist in our Kyiv company "Aquarium Technologies." Although he is in close contact with Rea Telegin.

Crystal4879

I apologize. I didn't mean to offend anyone. And I probably really confused Stanislavsky with Telegin.

Nicholas

Well, you really went for it - "to recharge some of the separators or quarantine tanks in the open sea!" And what is the tonnage of your separators and quarantine tanks? The sea at a hundred meters won't really "splash" much.

Brent8919

2GENA - it will happen. I was recently at "Aquarium Technologies" and saw a prepared aquarium for the sea - 60-70 liters at most. They said that the hardest process is to establish balance in it. But once it's established, the buyer, following the care recommendations, won't have any problems. However, such a volume is suitable for one or two fish and with live rocks.

Rachael

60-70 liters (!?) VERY interesting, what kind of fish are they? And also, I understand that this might be a company secret, but... maybe you could share the process of starting up and the technology for establishing biological balance. It would be very interesting!!!

Jonathon8514

I don't know about the fish - the aquarium was still empty. And Stanislavsky probably went to Odessa - he catches fish in the sea and puts them in the aquarium. This is a Black Sea aquarium - all the fish there are wild.

Jason9385

I don't know the name of the fish, but the coloring... There were 2 like this in the 80-liter "sea." In general, in the same books, there are descriptions of species with minimal volume requirements.

Steven757

For two hundred liters of live rocks, you would need about 20 kilograms, and even if you dig it up yourself, it will cost more than 200 bucks. If you buy it in Moscow, it will also cost around 400 enemy currency, so there's no point in talking about the low budget of the sea with live rocks. An aqua medic for 25 dollars in 200 liters will only be there for the name. If you want to set up the sea with Chinese pumps, you should pump it not through a bottle, but through a false bottom.

Amber9312

I would like to hear the moderator's opinion on these cans.

Natasha

Again forgot about live rocks 20 kg for 20 bucks.

Christopher1252

There are plenty of little dogs and bullheads, needles and sometimes skates, small mullet closer to autumn, and at the same time, flounder and turbot. Greenlings are very rare, so rare that I've never seen them in the water, only in catches. Returning to the question of prices, you can realistically make about 200 liters for a thousand if you approach it wisely. It can be done cheaper, as the less money you spend, the more you strive for the inhabitants.

Caroline1599

Mini reefs with a volume of 15-100 liters are a separate branch of reef aquaristics, and there are some very successful works in this area.

Chelsea567

Questions: 1) In what order should a marine aquarium be populated and how long after starting (water + live rocks) should this be done? 2) Is it necessary to cover the aquarium and with what type of glass, what lamps should be used for lighting? 3) Can shell rock be used for decoration (I have heard different opinions)?

Karen

- big advice - DOWNLOAD THE BOOK by Denkin from the forum - everything is described there. If you can't, then visit my site aquasea.narod.ru (this is not an advertisement - I swear!!!!)

Crystal

Guys, let me in on a secret. What do you need these "live rocks" for? According to what I've read, you can't start a marine aquarium without spending 20 bucks per kilo. I've gone through a hundred species of animals without "live rocks." Maybe I missed something important and don't fully understand?

Dana4701

There is an opinion that a certain amount of live rocks can eliminate the need for a complex filtration system, meaning it's enough to pile up some larger rocks, set up a couple of Chinese pumps to mix the water, and that's it. I can't say how true this is, but there is probably some truth to it.

Kimberly2102

No, I understand all of this, but it also applies to inanimate stones (coral, limestone). Why are live stones priced at $20 and weigh no less than 20 kg, when you can get naturally polished limestone for a maximum of $2 (in the Kyiv area)? You also need to have experience in "dealing" with live stones. Why is there such a push for such an expensive start? My attitude towards "marine start" can be seen in the topic "Some prefer it saltier."

Brianna

Well, still, could you share the secret of an inexpensive marine aquarium? I'm sure this topic will be interesting to many – at least it definitely is for me!

Lindsay

Yes, tell me! I even registered for this!

Cynthia

The VO and the people are also interested!!!!! - Share the secrets with a friend - just a little!!! Please.

Susan1358

In more detail, starting from the beginning and in order, as for users.

Gene1948

You probably think that I have nothing to do except "The Sea for Dummies." And what will the others be doing during this time? I already have about a dozen "stuck" topics. One with response potential is worth mentioning. Alright, I will generously agree to put you in "unanswered," and then... as inspiration allows. It's just that I have a lot of my own writing right now, and by the evening, when it comes to the internet, my mind is completely exhausted. So I apologize if I can't respond as often as you would like.

John828

As for the topic of "CO2 in a marine aquarium," I would award the title "Aquarium of the Month" for life.

Katie4842

and I ask to put to a vote the awarding of the title of "hero," as suggested, my opinion is that I am simply not ready to write a response, and I no longer want to write something in the spirit of "like blowing CO into a marine aquarium."

Jenny

This is certainly "in our style," to reinvent the wheel... - don't beat around the bush, if you said it, write it, people are asking... I don't like bravado, but what I've seen at sea today in terms of ideal is TUNZE. I don't consider myself an expert on the sea, and yet, as the English say, "I'm not rich enough to buy cheap..."

Anne4851

Creating a marine aquarium is inexpensive, but the knowledge of HOW to do it is expensive.

Christopher3770

Akela missed! Akela missed! And we will go north! And we will go north! This is a very old tale. Do you remember the end?

Brandon4517

Well, you don't need to tell me anymore - I have zero basic knowledge, otherwise I wouldn't be asking.

Cassandra1840

Your answer is counted as correct.

Gabriel

The reactor automatically solves the problem of maintaining and controlling calcium and pH.

Allison

what are the consequences of an overdose of bicarbonates and how important is hardness in this system

Megan

Thank you for the information, but I currently have a 2-month-old aquarium without fish and with live rocks, and the pH is 7.7. How can I safely correct this? There are no visible signs of organic decay. I would appreciate any advice.

Stacey4437

The natural influx of carbon dioxide is insufficient in the presence of a pile of carbonate-containing rocks, as the equilibrium is heavily shifted towards carbonates. Put good pieces of coral, tuff, marble, or similar materials in there (you can use a filter). If their quantity occupies up to 20% of the aquarium's volume, that's fine. By the way, what kind of substrate do you have? It's clearly not coral sand. It would also be good to share the parameters of the aquarium and the volume of live rocks since you are seeking advice.